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05-01-2008, 08:12 PM
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Re: Hell Bound? Says who???
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Only folks that believe and obey Acys 2:38 are saved. NOT one person has been saved in this dispensation without obeying Acts 2:38.
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With all due respect, there is no way you can prove this statement unless you are God!
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05-01-2008, 08:50 PM
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Re: Hell Bound? Says who???
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Only folks that believe and obey Acys 2:38 are saved. NOT one person has been saved in this dispensation without obeying Acts 2:38.
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That's a mighty big opinion for such a little guy!! I'm just glad that you have the ability to speak for God and to be able to prove that assumption.....'cause that's all it is.
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05-01-2008, 09:10 PM
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Re: Hell Bound? Says who???
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That's a mighty big opinion for such a little guy!! I'm just glad that you have the ability to speak for God and to be able to prove that assumption.....'cause that's all it is. 
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As a brother who's only 5'3" myself, I really didn't like personal attack. He's not some "guy" he's an elder and should be entreated as such.
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05-01-2008, 09:13 PM
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Re: Hell Bound? Says who???
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Only folks that believe and obey Acys 2:38 are saved. NOT one person has been saved in this dispensation without obeying Acts 2:38.
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Acts 2:38 is indeed the original message as preached by the Apostles. However, Jesus said,
"47And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more." - Luke 12:47-48
When we (Christ's servants) stand before the Lord our knowledge of the Lord's will will be a factor in how we are judged. Those who knew about Acts 2:38 and refused will be in far worse shape than men like Wycliffe and Tyndale who knew nothing about it.
I will not say rather a sincere Christian soul is saved or lost while not knowing the fullness of truth, they are at God's mercy. However, if one wishes to KNOW they're saved according to ALL that the BIBLE teaches I strongly advise they obey Acts 2:38.
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05-01-2008, 09:15 PM
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Re: Hell Bound? Says who???
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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen
As a brother who's only 5'3" myself, I really didn't like personal attack. He's not some "guy" he's an elder and should be entreated as such.
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He's a guy just like you and me, Sonny boy!
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05-01-2008, 09:17 PM
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Re: Hell Bound? Says who???
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Just as you avoided my post?? 
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I don't think I avoided it, I thought it was retorical.
Also, before I say anything else, I just have to say that I was SHOCKED to find out that you and Sis. Falla are siblings! I HIGHLY doubt Sis. Falla believes in Inclusion theology (although she is a kind sister) I can almost bank on her believing in hell. How is Thanksgiving? I've got to know how you two get along, because you both just seemed like the last people on AFF that would be related, lol...
Ok, now to your post... we could go over and over the whole Inclusion Theology, and it sure is fun to think about BUT there's not enough Biblical backing for that, as there is of eternal hellfire and torment for those that reject the Gospel. We don't read of those who GOD will punish with fire ever, eventually coming out from that Lake of Fire, once their wickedness has been purged out from them as the dross, and then being brought to GOD. Those who will go to the Lake of Fire WILL be eternally lost (unless GOD works something else out, which is not explicitly stated in HIS Word).
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05-01-2008, 09:19 PM
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Re: Hell Bound? Says who???
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Originally Posted by ChristopherHall
Acts 2:38 is indeed the original message as preached by the Apostles. However, Jesus said,
"47And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more." - Luke 12:47-48
When we (Christ's servants) stand before the Lord our knowledge of the Lord's will will be a factor in how we are judged. Those who knew about Acts 2:38 and refused will be in far worse shape than men like Wycliffe and Tyndale who knew nothing about it.
I will not say rather a sincere Christian soul is saved or lost while not knowing the fullness of truth, they are at God's mercy. However, if one wishes to KNOW they're saved according to ALL that the BIBLE teaches I strongly advise they obey Acts 2:38.
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But what about men who carried Bibles with them, and even read them, but still stayed in the darkness they were in and didn't find the Apostolic Gospel? Isn't the Bible the best witness of the Apostolic Gospel?
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Bro. Alex
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05-01-2008, 09:20 PM
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Re: Hell Bound? Says who???
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Originally Posted by ManOfWord
He's a guy just like you and me, Sonny boy! 
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Yes, but he should be entreated with some respect (even if you disagree with him on certain points or on certain things he says, which even I disagree on from time to time).
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05-01-2008, 09:28 PM
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Re: Hell Bound? Says who???
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Yes, but he should be entreated with some respect (even if you disagree with him on certain points or on certain things he says, which even I disagree on from time to time).
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So, where was there any disrespect? He and I are on the same level. We have been going at this since LONG before you were here, son.
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05-01-2008, 09:34 PM
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Re: Hell Bound? Says who???
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So, where was there any disrespect? He and I are on the same level. We have been going at this since LONG before you were here, son. 
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And why don't you stop despising my youth? There was an older woman in my assembly, when my pastor was first starting up that would condescendingly go to him and say, "That was good preaching sonny." He later became pastor of the assembly. She's now gone.
GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex
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