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05-29-2008, 05:41 PM
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Re: Biblical guide for a "church service"
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
It was immediate all through the NT at every baptism... Cornelius... Eunich why not now?
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Cornelius received the Holy Ghost and spoke in tongues before he got baptized.
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05-29-2008, 06:02 PM
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Re: Biblical guide for a "church service"
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
Praxaes.. please show me where they were praising God in tongues...... I am waiting for that scripture....
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I already did. I quoted you using the quote butten. I then pointed out what the scriptures said that they were speaking of God's wonderful works.....that is praise. I gave scripture to show it...I then pointed out Peter preached the gospel. They did NOT preach the gospel in tongues. Please PLEASE stop avoiding my posts then acting later on like I said something else or never made a point to begin with
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-29-2008, 06:03 PM
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Re: Biblical guide for a "church service"
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
Keep reading Prax.. its just not there
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What in the world are you talking about? Please PLEASE sir...PLEASE stop being intentionally ambiguous like this and QUOTE ME. Your posts like this are really useless.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-29-2008, 06:04 PM
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Re: Biblical guide for a "church service"
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
For he that speaketh in an [unknown] tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth [him]; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
The scriptures speak for themselves.. at Pentecost they were TELLING the works of God... the largest missionary endeavor in history... and then Peter..... speaks to the unbelievers collectivly to make plain unto them what they were seeing....
but this was NOT A PENTECOSAL style gathering... no speaking in tongues
Paul said that NO MAN WOULD HAVE UNDERSTOOD them had they been speaking in tongues... argue with the book
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Are you responding to someone elses post? Please quote them. This is getting rediculous
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-29-2008, 06:07 PM
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Re: Biblical guide for a "church service"
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
They were SENT there to WAIT for the promise of the Father and then to preach repentance and remission of sins. But the point is they were gathered together. It was a church gathering. This goes against your asserted paradigm of what church gatherings are ONLY for.
They ASKED that? what verse was that again?
they were ALL speaking in tongues....perhaps AT the same time...which is UNLIKE what Paul told the Corinthians to do..you have a contradiction there if you are right in your interpretations. Additionally they were NOT preaching the gospel in tongues to them....if they were there would be no reason for Peter to stand up and preach a gospel message
Act 2:11 both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabs — we hear them speaking in our own languages about the great deeds God has done!"
Yes....you know what that is? That is HIGH PRAISE!
sa 12:4 And you will say in that day: "Give thanks to the LORD, call upon his name, make known his deeds among the peoples, proclaim that his name is exalted.
Isa 12:5 "Sing praises to the LORD, for he has done gloriously; let this be made known in all the earth.
There is no verse that says they were standing there conversing with these others in their own language. Tongues according to Paul...the verses YOU raised as an issue....is OUR spirit talking to God. It just so happens because these languages were in the language of the people they heard them praising God in the Spirit....but Peter STILL had to preach to them the gospel
Then is Paul a liar? It says they were ALL filled and began to speak in tongues...speak in tongues...They were SPEAKING in tongues. That is YOUR spirit praying to God according to Paul.
Act 10:45 The circumcised believers who had accompanied Peter were greatly astonished that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on the Gentiles,
Act 10:46 for they heard them speaking in tongues and praising God. Then Peter said,
Act 10:47 "No one can withhold the water for these people to be baptized, who have received the Holy Spirit just as we did, can he?"
Act 10:48 So he gave orders to have them baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay for several days. |
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Brother, the problem I think is that you have your fingers in way to many pies. You have stretched yourself thing across several threads I believe and this makes it impossible for you to, in a cognizant manner, address our posts.
This is one reason the admin have asked you to limit how many new threads you start. It is just becoming more frustrating and devisive trying to have an intelligent dialogue with you.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-30-2008, 11:50 AM
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GET IT RIGHT!
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Re: Biblical guide for a "church service"
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
RICO - Priscilla was allowed to have a conversation with men with her husband present about the things of God,,, she was not allowed to PREACH in the local church setting.. this sister and I are having a conversation.. she is in no authority over me whatsoever as she would be if she were preaching the WORD OF GOD to me
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Brother, even if we were in a church setting and I was preaching the Word of God, I would not have or be attempting to have authority over you. The Word of God is the authority whether preached by a male or a female. The male or female is simply a messenger with no authority in or of themselves.
When you submit to and/or obey the Word of God, you are submitting to and/or obeying God, not the man or woman delivering the message.
On the other hand, if a man or woman gives their personal interpretation or opinion on something and you choose to submit and/or obey, THEN you are submitting to and/or obeying the man or woman. 
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05-30-2008, 11:59 AM
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Re: Biblical guide for a "church service"
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Originally Posted by LadyRev
Brother, even if we were in a church setting and I was preaching the Word of God, I would not have or be attempting to have authority over you. The Word of God is the authority whether preached by a male or a female. The male or female is simply a messenger with no authority in or of themselves.
When you submit to and/or obey the Word of God, you are submitting to and/or obeying God, not the man or woman delivering the message.
On the other hand, if a man or woman gives their personal interpretation or opinion on something and you choose to submit and/or obey, THEN you are submitting to and/or obeying the man or woman. |
of course we disagree.. my respect for you as my sister will not allow me to argue the point......
in closing to young Timothy Paul describes the role of a preacher
Preach the Word........reprove, rebuke, exhort..... all of those words places a Preacher in a divine authority to rebuke reprove and correct the Saints of God.. no sister should have that authority over the Man of God.....
again... I honor your walk with God, we simply disagree
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05-30-2008, 12:38 PM
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GET IT RIGHT!
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Re: Biblical guide for a "church service"
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
LR is a bonified lady preacher
Thats an Oxymoron, there is no such thing
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I assure you I am neither "Oxy" nor am I a moron. 
However, there is no doubt I'm a bonified lady preacher. I'm very real, believe it or not, and I do preach the Word of God. I'm even licensed and recognized by my organization of choice, the UPCI. I'm also married and my husband can tell you I am very real. Hes my biggest fan!
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05-30-2008, 12:46 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Re: Biblical guide for a "church service"
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I assure you I am neither "Oxy" nor am I a moron.
However, there is no doubt I'm a bonified lady preacher. I'm very real, believe it or not, and I do preach the Word of God. I'm even licensed and recognized by my organization of choice, the UPCI. I'm also married and my husband can tell you I am very real. Hes my biggest fan! |
He'd better be, with all them guns you have!!!
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05-30-2008, 01:40 PM
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Jesus is the Christ
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Re: Biblical guide for a "church service"
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
What in the world are you talking about? Please PLEASE sir...PLEASE stop being intentionally ambiguous like this and QUOTE ME. Your posts like this are really useless.
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PRAX
That is how he does it. He tries to wear people out not with sound reasoning from the scriptures, but with circular dialog and ambigious terms.
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If ye believe not that I AM, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24
Mone me, amabo te, si erro
No real problem exists over the use of "The Name" in everthing else done in the Church. Why then should there exist great controversy over the use of the "The Name of the Godhead" in water baptism?
Kevin J. Conner The Name of God p. 92
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