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Old 05-31-2008, 08:57 PM
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Sorry, I didn't realize they had the baptism of the Holy Ghost...... my bad
WHAT Spirit caused King Saul to do that? What Spirit caused Daniel to do that? And YES John had the baptism of the Holy Spirit...your bad.
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It's not for the public assembly, no matter what it is.. hog grunting or barking,, only demons operate in the animalistic realm... so hog grunting or dog barking should be reserved for a prayer closet
Again it's YOU that puts the spin "hog grunting or dog barking" on it. And it is YOU that arbitrarily assigns what is not for a church meeting.

You have no bible and you are unable to refute my points and counter arguments to your points as evidenced by the fact that you ignore my posts, even after I bump them. You make excuses that I make personal comments, when all I did was respond to your posts not to you personally and you can't make the excuse that you did not see them since I see you noticed me bumping them up
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Old 05-31-2008, 09:24 PM
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WHAT Spirit caused King Saul to do that? What Spirit caused Daniel to do that? And YES John had the baptism of the Holy Spirit...your bad.
Were ANY OF THESE PEOPLE in the local assembly of training and equipping believers when this happened to them? Or where they alone with God... exactly where this should happen
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Old 05-31-2008, 09:30 PM
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Were ANY OF THESE PEOPLE in the local assembly of training and equipping believers when this happened to them? Or where they alone with God... exactly where this should happen
More obfuscation.

These men were under the control of the Spirit...no a demonic spirit like you have tried to insinuate...no voodoo here. It was the Spirit of God. Can you refute that or not?
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  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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Re: I wish to recant my position on Praise & Worsh

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I personally don't mock to mock you. When I received the Holy Ghost I spoke in tongues and wept and sobbed and lost track of time too. However, you said something that does trouble some of us...



I too have been prompted by the Holy Ghost to run, dance, shout, praise, and worship. I've even been used in a couple of the spiritual gifts. BUT, each time I was in control, I was just surrendered and yielding to the prompting of God's Spirit. I've personally never felt "out of control" with God moving me, knocking me, bumping me, rolling me (though I've felt the Holy Ghost prompt me to roll several times), or holding me down. There was one occasion where the power of God was so strong we worshiped and praised at the altar service and the glory truly came down brother. I virtually collapsed in exhaustion from worship and the power of God rested upon me so strongly...I don't want to move or get up. I just lay there speaking in tongues. I could have chosen to stop and get up to go back to my seat...but my soul didn't want to, I just wanted to bask in God's presence.

Sometimes when people say they weren't in any control, I have to wonder...was it the Holy Ghost? I ask this because I only find one place in Scripture where a person is moved and flopped around and had absolutely no control over it...

Mark 9:14-27
14And when he came to his disciples, he saw a great multitude about them, and the scribes questioning with them.
15And straightway all the people, when they beheld him, were greatly amazed, and running to him saluted him.
16And he asked the scribes, What question ye with them?
17And one of the multitude answered and said, Master, I have brought unto thee my son, which hath a dumb spirit;
18And wheresoever he taketh him, he teareth him: and he foameth, and gnasheth with his teeth, and pineth away: and I spake to thy disciples that they should cast him out; and they could not.
19He answereth him, and saith, O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him unto me.
20And they brought him unto him: and when he saw him, straightway the spirit tare him; and he fell on the ground, and wallowed foaming.
21And he asked his father, How long is it ago since this came unto him? And he said, Of a child.
22And ofttimes it hath cast him into the fire, and into the waters, to destroy him: but if thou canst do any thing, have compassion on us, and help us.
23Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.
24And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.
25When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him.
26And the spirit cried, and rent him sore, and came out of him: and he was as one dead; insomuch that many said, He is dead.
27But Jesus took him by the hand, and lifted him up; and he arose.

Sometimes there's very strong demonic activity in church services. Not everything manifested in a church service is of the Holy Ghost. There's been some who sincerely thought something was the Holy Ghost and it wasn't. This is where discernment becomes very important. What happened to you may ave been the Holy Ghost, I wasn't there, so I really can't judge in your case.

I do have a question for the readers here. I know that in the Bible we see the power of the Holy Ghost demonstrated so powerfully that men speak with tongues, prophesy, interpret tongues, etc. But is there any scriptural examples of men rolling on the ground, jerking, juking, or flopping uncontrollably under the power of the Holy Ghost?
Most of my ministry is so over powered by the Holy Ghost I have no control.When the Holy Ghost moves in control I lay hands on people and they are healed,devils are cast out,they fall on the floor as dead people with babies in their arms and no one catches them and the baby stays in their arms and no one ever gets hurt and I never got hurt.I guess when God is in control to do things, things happen,and is different from all these preachers praying for people and they never get healed or delivered.When God's in control things happen.Believe what you like.


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[21] For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
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Re: I wish to recant my position on Praise & Worsh

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More obfuscation.

These men were under the control of the Spirit...no a demonic spirit like you have tried to insinuate...no voodoo here. It was the Spirit of God. Can you refute that or not?
Can you refute this was not done in the local training center called the church? It is not for public display
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Most of my ministry is so over powered by the Holy Ghost I have no control.When the Holy Ghost moves in control I lay hands on people and they are healed,devils are cast out,they fall on the floor as dead people with babies in their arms and no one catches them and the baby stays in their arms and no one ever gets hurt and I never got hurt.I guess when God is in control to do things, things happen,and is different from all these preachers praying for people and they never get healed or delievered.When God's in control things happen.Believe what you like.
Ok,, your just joking right? your not being serious.. your playing,, right?
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Old 05-31-2008, 09:42 PM
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Re: I wish to recant my position on Praise & Worsh

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Can you refute this was not done in the local training center called the church? It is not for public display
Now you are just trying to avoid answering.

Your non-answer suggests to me that you see the writting on the wall and are now trying to find another angle. The Spirit of God DOES infact control peoples bodies or actions at times.

Then you made another logical fallacy by calling "the church" the local training center to bolster you false claim that church is and can ONLY be a place of learning and not also worship or corporate prayer or any other thing...the thing you have been asserting all along but failing to prove. And I have several times disproven or ripped apart your assertions only to be ignored.
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Ok,, your just joking right? your not being serious.. your playing,, right?
Sounds kinda personal Dr V....apparently it's not just us.
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  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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BTW there is no "center"...in the bible. They worshipped and met in houses...most typically probably held no more than 12 members or more...the Corinthian church was therefore made up of several house churches. Churches met for various reasons as I have already proven which included teaching, prayers, worship and other things to edify one another like the gifts of the Spirit and fellowship.
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