How the TSA shakes down a fully armed squad

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I suggest they be politely told that they can't fly.

John Tyner should have looked you up.

But... like I said... this is good. It will bring this craziness to the public arena. It needs to be dealt with.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Sam

Fox News has been going on and on about "Don't touch my junk"

Fox News is just hyping it up for ratings. The media always get's the public ratchetted up over an issue like it's the end of the world and weak minds buy into it. I'd be willing to wager that less than 1% of those flying today had any serious issue with or during screening.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Aquila

What do you believe we should do with a person who refuses to pass through a screening device and refuses a pat down?

Wouldn't blatant refusal with no explanation be probable cause?

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Fox News is just hyping it up for ratings. The media always get's the public ratcheted up over an issue like it's the end of the world and weak minds buy into it. I'd be willing to wager that less than 1% of those flying today had any serious issue with or during screening.

What you now call the weak middle from way up on your rule enforcement pedestal used to be called "We the People".

Don't fool yourself. We are still the people and when the people wake up the people will begin calling the shots again.

So enjoy the reign while it lasts.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Wouldn't blatant refusal with no explanation be probable cause?

Probable cause for what? In a free society, why do folks need to explain themselves?
This craziness government attack on ordinary freedoms will be paid for in 2012.
The Muslim terrorists are getting diaphragmatic hernias from laughing so hard.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Wouldn't blatant refusal with no explanation be probable cause?

Nope.

Cops ask all the time "Would you mind if I take a look in your vehicle" to which I am perfectly free to answer "I don't consent to that sir" as long as I have not committed a crime.

Lack of groveling is not probable cause.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

What you now call the weak middle from way up on your rule enforcement pedestal used to be called "We the People".

Don't fool yourself. We are still the people and when the people wake up the people will begin calling the shots again.

So enjoy the reign while it lasts.

People won't put up with this. I have traveled as much as 20,000 miles in a single month. The airlines from pilots to ticket agents are clean classy and articulate. The horrible gubment workers and granny gropers can make a great trip turn into disaster with a single stupid bully move.

Take a Proctor & Gamble. They have thousands of traveling sales reps. They have strict rules on sexual harrassment.
If they ask an employee to travel to visit an account and the young lady has her privates touched. the company has broken it's own rules to prevent wrongfull sexual contact.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Nope.

Cops ask all the time "Would you mind if I take a look in your vehicle" to which I am perfectly free to answer "I don't consent to that sir" as long as I have not committed a crime.

Lack of groveling is not probable cause.

My employee handbook calls for termination of a worker that tries to fondle another person while on the job.

We need to call it what it is..

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Fox News is just hyping it up for ratings. The media always get's the public ratchetted up over an issue like it's the end of the world and weak minds buy into it. I'd be willing to wager that less than 1% of those flying today had any serious issue with or during screening.

Aquila you are on the job (government job) and insulting tax payers that pay for you to goof off and blog at work.

weak minds.

The Granny gropers won't pass on complaints.

People want liberty and freedom and you want big nasty government. We have opposing values.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Wouldn't blatant refusal with no explanation be probable cause?

Obviously not. Saying that someone doesn't have the right to search you (by refusing) doesn't equate implied guilt of any sort. It's an expression of personal liberty.

If cops have to follow this protocol (of having probable cause), I can't imagine why TSA agents shouldn't have to as well.

I also do not understand why a person can't just choose not to fly if they decide they don't want to be searched or scanned. If a person decides to leave the airport and not fly, then they are no longer a danger to the airline and should be allowed to leave without a fuss--or a fine. It is absolutely a bully tactic for the airline to insist that once a scan or search has begun, it can't be stopped without the victim facing a stiff penalty. That's ridiculous.