Bombshell- Considering going back to the UPC

[CC1]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Stop CC1 your making me want to go back......

Gives you a warm fuzzy feeling doesn't it? Oh....wait.....that is indigestion. Never mind.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by CC1

Stop dilly dallying around! You brought up that you were seriously considering returning to the UPC then you can't even find the motivation to check out the UPC church service?

This seems very strange. Stop procrastinating and get your butt to that church so they can drag you to the altar and straighten you out!

I am eagerly looking forward to your AFF testimony about how you have "seen the light" and returned to the "old paths". How you have given all of your short sleeve shirts and shorts to Goodwill. How your wife has sold her jewelry and given it to the church and flushed her Jezebel cosmetics down the toilet.

C'mon man, get with the program!!!!

You forgot getting rid of the one-eyed devil in the living room and burning all those old Santana, Ozzy, and Cheap Trick albums and cassette tapes.

[ILG]

I've thought about going back to visit and then felt a panic attack coming on. LOL!

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Act 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
Act 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Yep, the answer is always the same. But that's not the answer you're looking for, is it?

Oh...and a 'church' teaching a perverted gospel which results in men, women and children dying for lack of medical attention ain't the definition of "living right" is it?

You conveniently forgot to read a little further in that chapter
"And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway."

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

As usual your as wrong as blinker fluid. But your a good legalistic while your messing up Scriptures.

Oh yea make sure that your women folk are not wearing powder or foundation cuz that's sin under your law!

assertions mean little to me. You saying your wrong and then pointing to nothing of substance..............

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by Farfel

These thing don't make a person a legalist. It's man-made rules that make someone a legalist.

As a side note, I believe that OSAS is wrong, and someone can lose their salvation.

sry but Baptists would disagree. They would view anything outside of initial "saving faith" as works and cannot hinder your salvation. Thus "works" of any form by commandment or not are not salvational. To say they are salvational, you have made "works" = the the blood of the cross. So man made or not to much of Christianity is not even a issue.

[Farfel]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

sry but Baptists would disagree. They would view anything outside of initial "saving faith" as works to hinder your salvation. Thus "works" of any form by commandment or not are not salvational. To say they are you have made "works" = the the blood of the cross. So man made or not to much of Christianity is not even a issue.

What do Baptists have to do with this discussion? I know for a fact that not all Baptists are OSAS. Particularly Freewill Baptists.

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by Farfel

What do Baptists have to do with this discussion? I know for a fact that not all Baptists are OSAS. Particularly Freewill Baptists.

my point was many view legalism differently based on theology. Sure not all baptists don't beleive that but many do. Many still believe it is very hard to lose right standing and to say your destiny in the end is judged by your works is legalism. I know former UPC preachers who would teach that. Arminian baptists also have OSAS proponents among them and almost OSAS proponents andwuld call most on this board legalists. My point was simple of people throw around the word "legalism" and yet most are considered a legalist by someone. A persons view of atonement determines why and who they say that to. I don't care if someone called me a legalist one way or another. It means nothing because it has lost it's meaning and used incorrectly most of the time but again that is by my view of theology. I could go around calling people antinomians too. How ofter you hear that?

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

my point was many view legalism differently based on theology. Sure not all baptists don't beleive that but many do. Many still believe it is very hard to lose right standing and to say your destiny in the end is judged by your works is legalism. I know former UPC preachers who would teach that. Arminian baptists also have OSAS proponents among them and almost OSAS proponents andwuld call most on this board legalists. My point was simple of people throw around the word "legalism" and yet most are considered a legalist by someone. A persons view of atonement determines why and who they say that to. I don't care if someone called me a legalist one way or another. It means nothing because it has lost it's meaning and used incorrectly most of the time but again that is by my view of theology. I could go around calling people antinomians too. How ofter you hear that?

Or you could call me a good little protestant.

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Or you could call me a good little protestant.

well... I would say for the most part your atonement theology is right in the middle of it from what I have seen.