***NEWSFLASH*** - Fasten Your TV Seat Belts!!!! - Page 17

TalkLady · #**161** 07-21-2007, 05:14 PM

As I have heard some say, "The lost may not become saved and the saved may become lost"...I'm not saying I agree. That's just what I've heard.

#**162** 07-21-2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pianoman

If you're saying that the big fish would be swalling up the small fish, aren't you saying that TV advertising would work? Are you saying that the larger churches with a budget to advertise on TV would attract more people?

The resolution clearly states that a licensed preacher can't have a TV in their home. That's pretty specific!

As Pragmatist has already stated, the big fish swallowing the small fish is big church swallowing small church.

While there are some who would never support any association with TV whatsoever, there are others who might support advertising if it were national ,a la LDS, and listed all the info for all the churches in a particular geography in the advertisement's trailer or on screen footer.

I will reiterate that the traditional ministerial ethics are disappearing. Meanwhile, as a result of the demise of ethics, the territorial nature of the traditional UPCI pastor is as strong if not stronger than it ever was. This is going to result in turf wars like New York or Chicago have never seen. It is a bad situation that will get worse in my opinion.

The Closer · #**163** 07-21-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER

State then.....Please!

Mr. Cooper, it seems that some on here carry you around on a pillow trying not to offend you, but I will be man/woman (note I have not stated on that matter either) enough to tell you. None of your business. If you do not like my posting style or the fact that I am not giving you information, do not respond to me.

#**164** 07-21-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by philjones

As Pragmatist has already stated, the big fish swallowing the small fish is big church swallowing small church.

While there are some who would never support any association with TV whatsoever, there are others who might support advertising if it were national ,a la LDS, and listed all the info for all the churches in a particular geography in the advertisement's trailer or on screen footer.

I will reiterate that the traditional ministerial ethics are disappearing. Meanwhile, as a result of the demise of ethics, the territorial nature of the traditional UPCI pastor is as strong if not stronger than it ever was. This is going to result in turf wars like New York or Chicago have never seen. It is a bad situation that will get worse in my opinion.

You are right on this, Bro. Jones. Just as the gangs fight it out on the streets on the large cities, the religious politicians fight it out in the closed door meetings. Some of the same mentality - protect the turf at any cost - even to the loss of life!!!

The Dean · #**165** 07-21-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stmatthew

Funny thing is that Preachers expect their folks to follow their "rules". What would some of you do if One of those on the platform decided to break your rules?? You would sit them down, wouldn't you?? Yet some licensed ministers think nothing of scoffing at the current governing rules within the Org they are a part of.

I personally think very little of someone that expects me to "toe the line" and then does not do so themselves.

Now THIS is a good post. Bravo!

SDG · #**166** 07-21-2007, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rrford

A source is a source, of course, of course,
And no one can talk to a source of course
That is, of course, unless the source is the famous Mister NLYP.

Go right to the source and ask the source
He’ll give you the answer that you’ll endorse.
He’s always on a steady course.
Talk to Mister NLYP.

People yakkity yak a streak and waste your time of day
But Mr. NLYP will never speak unless he has something to say

A source is a source, of course, of course,
And this one’ll talk ‘til his voice is hoarse.
You never heard of a talking source?

Well listen to this: "I'm Mister NLYP."

I love when anti-tv preachers allude to tv programs ....

IAintMovin · #**167** 07-21-2007, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Steadfast

One correction and one admission:

Correction... I didn't challenge your IQ or past. I stated I don't know anything about it. HUGE difference.

Admission... I've seen you several times take a pounding and bounce back just like you said! To that end, partner, nobody can fault you!

Ahhhh.... some children do not even realize it when they are getting a spanking too..........

:sshhh:Nhl_ch eck

bdlooney · #**168** 07-21-2007, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

You mean Christ Church has about 3,000 members and did it WITHOUT a television program?????????????????????

Who would have thunk it???????????????????????????

Amazing isn't it, Bro. Epley?

Hoovie · #**169** 07-21-2007, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I love when anti-tv preachers allude to tv programs ....

I understand, it's funny, but it really depends on what level of "Anti" they are.

I consider myself anti and I went on a show.

Nahum · #**170** 07-21-2007, 08:12 PM

Can the UPC advertising on television really stop revival? I find that idea laughable. God is gonna have a church people. Maybe its time we expand our view of exactly who, and what that is.

We (UPC) are not the only players any more. We have a yearly net growth rate of 1%. Don't feed me a line of cockamamie that tv evangelism is going to hamper growth.

WHAT GROWTH?