A Word About Drinking, Drunks, and Those Who Rejoice in Their Sin

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

Probablly so PM....by the looks of your avatar..I'd say for certainly

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[MissBrattified]

I suppose it has to be determined what it means to be "intoxicated." Scripture says to "be not drunk with wine", and drunk means "intoxicated", so...does intoxicated mean tipsy? Or does it mean "I can't stand up?"

According to Strong's, the word "drunk" in Eph. 5:18 is the transitive form of the word "drunkard", the latter meaning "tipsy." (Or intoxicated)

When is one tipsy? When is one intoxicated? What qualifies as "drunk?"

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I suppose it has to be determined what it means to be "intoxicated." Scripture says to "be not drunk with wine", and drunk means "intoxicated", so...does intoxicated mean tipsy? Or does it mean "I can't stand up?"

According to Strong's, the word "drunk" in Eph. 5:18 is the transitive form of the word "drunkard", the latter meaning "tipsy." (Or intoxicated)

When is one tipsy? When is one intoxicated? What qualifies as "drunk?"

I got an answer, The best way to avoid any questionable drunkeness is to not drink anything w/alcohol in it. LOL!

[MissBrattified]

From Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

[Ephesians] 5:15-21

"Another remedy against sin, is care, or caution, it being impossible else to maintain purity of heart and life. Time is a talent given us by God, and it is misspent and lost when not employed according to his design. If we have lost our time heretofore, we must double our diligence for the future. Of that time which thousands on a dying bed would gladly redeem at the price of the whole world, how little do men think, and to what trifles they daily sacrifice it! People are very apt to complain of bad times; it were well if that stirred them more to redeem time.

Be not unwise. Ignorance of our duty, and neglect of our souls, show the greatest folly. Drunkenness is a sin that never goes alone, but carries men into other evils; it is a sin very provoking to God. The drunkard holds out to his family and to the world the sad spectacle of a sinner hardened beyond what is common, and hastening to perdition. When afflicted or weary, let us not seek to raise our spirits by strong drink, which is hateful and hurtful, and only ends in making sorrows more felt. But by fervent prayer let us seek to be filled with the Spirit, and to avoid whatever may grieve our gracious Comforter."

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

We've established common ground very early on .... everyone agreed drunkeness is a a sin .... and stated so very early in this thread ...

Photographers and those in the recording have a phrase .... GARBAGE IN, GARBAGE OUT .... this thread was founded on quicksand from the very beginning when it sought to disparage .... and take a moral high ground.


as for not addressing your post .... it's based on opinion and not sound scripture.

Which one?

*BUMP* for Daniel.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Which one?

*BUMP* for Daniel.

Your exegetical one ... that Easty and PP lauded.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Your exegetical one ... that Easty and PP lauded.

There were several. Can you point me to the particular post please?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

There were several. Can you point me to the particular post please?

The one that mistakenly claimed Western culture doesn't know how to handle it's liquor .... I thought Europeans, note wine drinkers, were part of WESTERN CULTURE?

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

The one that mistakenly claimed Western culture doesn't know how to handle it's liquor .... I thought Europeans, note wine drinkers, were part of WESTERN CULTURE?

That is a misquote. What I said was:

"Biblical points aside, the insensitivity on this issue is shocking. Our western culture is not a culture of restraint, which places alcohol use in a whole different category than it was in Bible days."

You don't agree that western culture is one of indulgence, generally speaking?

Were there any other parts of my post which you felt weren't biblically supported, or supported by other evidence?

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Which is worse,

1. A group of backsliders posting about consuming large amounts of alcohol and really enjoying it ?

or

2. A group of so-called Christians (some supposedly preachers) laughing and yucking it up with the backsliders, glorying in the good ole days when they used to get plastered, and wondering what kind of drunk they would be now?

You people disgust me sometimes.

It's one thing to allow ANYONE, including backsliders, to post here at will. Admin has been very kind in that regard.

Another entirely to openly tolerate, revel in, and promote sin. BTW, drunkenness IS sin. Admin shouldn't be required to put up with that garbage.

The whole "it's cool to be a backslider and promote my wickedness on AFF" thing is a little out of hand.

I think both are sad.