Modesty as described by the General Youth Division

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Wellll...I really don't think it's gossip, PO, if it's in an accessible publication. Public photos available to be publicly analyzed and shredded, if it behooves the conversation.

Not necessarily tasteful, but not exactly "gossip." DA could have cropped out the faces, although then we would have missed the great headgear!

I don't agree.

So, if it's for publication and I printed it out and took it to my youth group on Wednesday night and said, "Get a load of this!" That's not gossip? Gossip is when you tear someone down "negatively" for the purpose of putting them down. Talking about something is a totally different matter.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

But why is it now here? So we can gossip about it! That's righttt!!!

Were we gossiping when we discussed dresses during the election?

It's only gossip now because you don't like that it's about UPC kids.

[dizzyde]

It's been fun but I gotta run! See ya all later!

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

What if living by your convictions will draw attention no matter what? Is that immodest? (e.g., long sleeves, skirts, long hair, no jewelry, etc.) The Amish certainly attract attention, in all their purposeful plainness, but I don't think we could legitimately call them "immodest."

OH yes, the Amish. Now THEY are modest. Come on.

Undo the culture behind the word and understand the definition.

Is it modest to look like you live in a time period 500 years ago? As a way of life? Surely they are in there own class, but you get the point. We really shouldn't be known for WHAT WE WEAR, that's the opposite of modesty.

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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

You are right, there are.

Dressing to your convictions is appropriate, even if it makes you stand out a little. Dressing to be noticed is different.

Wouldn't that then go back to what MB said about the attitude? Therefore, not everything can be labeled as immodest just because it's noticeable. Admiration can be noticeable.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I don't agree.

So, if it's for publication and I printed it out and took it to my youth group on Wednesday night and said, "Get a load of this!" That's not gossip?

What is gossip? I thought it was making private matters public? Or spreading rumors?

Critiquing a young couple's outfit is unnecessary, and acting like they've done something wrong for just trying to have some fun is just mean, IMO, but I don't think gossip is the correct label for it.

Gossip would be taking a picture of a person scantily clad in their fenced in back yard, when they thought they were in (relative) privacy, and making it public for whatever reason.

Sharing the picture isn't gossip; slamming the couple for wearing a hilarious outfit? That's mean-spirited.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

OH yes, the Amish. Now THEY are modest. Come on.

Undo the culture behind the word and understand the definition.

Is it modest to look like you live in a time period 500 years ago? As a way of life? Surely they are in there own class, but you get the point. We really shouldn't be known for WHAT WE WEAR, that's the opposite of modesty.

I think if Pamela Anderson and I were sisters, I would be known for what I wear as well as she. Don't you think? I'm not sure we will be able to get past that.

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

What is gossip? I thought it was making private matters public? Or spreading rumors?

Critiquing a young couple's outfit is unnecessary, and acting like they've done something wrong for just trying to have some fun is just mean, IMO, but I don't think gossip is the correct label for it.

Gossip would be taking a picture of a person scantily clad in their fenced in back yard, when they thought they were in (relative) privacy, and making it public for whatever reason.

Sharing the picture isn't gossip; slamming the couple for wearing a hilarious outfit? That's mean-spirited.

They are being made fun of here. That is "neg - a - tive". That puts it in the gossip category! Repent, sistah! The Lord is at hand!!! I'm pulling a Mark Y here.

Gossip is when you reflect negatively on your subject with means to harm their character or reputation. That is certainly being done here today.

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Wouldn't that then go back to what MB said about the attitude? Therefore, not everything can be labeled as immodest just because it's noticeable. Admiration can be noticeable.

I think attitude is what Apostle Paul was primarily addressing. I don't think he meant to outlaw nice clothing, or jewelry, he was saying that the spirit is what really counts.

But he did make the statement that women should dress in modest clothing. We have to deal with that. I personally think that by modest there he meant moderate.

And it sounds to me, P.O., like you dress very moderately.

(okay, my husband says it's time to leave)

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Originally Posted by dizzyde

It's been fun but I gotta run! See ya all later!

Later!!! Have a good evening!!!!!