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10-11-2015, 08:18 PM
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Re: Some standing here
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Originally Posted by mfblume
Contradiction. Real sword but not real wine press. This is inconsistency with no rhyme or reason.
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That's because a literal sword is depicted as physically coming out of Jesus' mouth, but the winepress is not proceeding from any part of His body. You see this is why Sean gets so angry, because his beliefs didn't come through study, they come off the fly, and he never gets a chance to think these things through. I hope to God, that is the case, because if it is not, that guy is more puzzled, then I ever imagined. 
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10-11-2015, 08:20 PM
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Re: Some standing here
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Originally Posted by Bowas
Oh I see now. If it is connected to or proceeding from a body, it is literal, but if the body is just standing in it or just touching something, it is a metaphor.
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10-11-2015, 08:23 PM
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Re: Some standing here
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Originally Posted by mfblume
Ha Ha!!! Yes, a systematic method to be sure!
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Indeed, Jesus' tongue was a physical sword. Sean, but the winepress is merely symbolic? Now you know why he believes the things he believes.
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10-11-2015, 08:27 PM
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Re: Some standing here
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Originally Posted by Bowas
Ok. I made an adjustment. So now, is what I posted an accurate portrayal of your interpretive method? I'm just trying to get an idea on your parameters on deciding what goes into what category. Literal or spiritual.
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Originally Posted by Sean
You see, if I tell you something, and you tell me I meant something else, that is saying, "I thought you were METAPHORICALLY speaking about something else".
But in reality, you lied about what I originally said.
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Is all this necessary?
Seriously, having a discussion with Sean is like falling in a cesspool, once you get out you try to make sure it NEVER happens again. 
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10-11-2015, 08:30 PM
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Re: Some standing here
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Originally Posted by Bowas
It's ok. I get what you are saying. (I think) If it is connected to or proceeding from a body, it is literal, but if the body is just standing in it or just touching something, it is a sign.
I was just curious how you can take one word in a verse and make it a sign, and another word in the same verse as being literal.
I was sure you had a method to your madness (figure of speech) (or was it a metaphor? IDK) and just was curious as I couldn't see a consistent method.
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Did you notice that after you asked your question concerning the Sean's interpretive method, he blew a socket? He goes seven posts without making himself clear concerning his method of interpretation? Does anyone else notice this?
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Last edited by Evang.Benincasa; 10-11-2015 at 09:48 PM.
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10-11-2015, 08:32 PM
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Re: Some standing here
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Originally Posted by Sean
LOL , when I read a verse in Rev., and it is showing a sign, I use the sign to clarify the verse itself.
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Originally Posted by Bowas
Right. And you can tell it's literal by if it proceed from the body as opposed to just the body touching it which makes it a sign. I get it.
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Bowas, the Lord love your heart.
In Jesus name. 
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10-12-2015, 12:14 AM
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Re: Some standing here
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Originally Posted by Sean
His wrath is compared to a winepress, Bowas, and unrighteous man are compared to the grapes being stomped under the pressers feet..
Did you see your previous posts, and how you denegrated the verses with sarcasm?
Your preterist ideas now give you the "liberty" to attack and denegrate the verses to the point that a minor analogy in a verse, becomes MASS metaphors.
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The winepress is not literal but a real sword is coming out of Jesus' mouth?
Mmkay
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10-12-2015, 05:53 AM
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Re: Some standing here
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Originally Posted by houston
The winepress is not literal but a real sword is coming out of Jesus' mouth?
Mmkay
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Sean makes it up as he goes along. He showed his understanding was limited concerning eschatology in the eschatology section of this forum, when Sean saturation bombed one thread with nothing but material ( he never even read) which was cut and pasted off the Internet. When Sean was exposed he left that section and then decided to prove to one and all how really limited he was by telling everyone that if they didn't read the Bible only in 17th Century English they weren't really reading the Bible. Also that we weren't believing the true word of God because we didn't embrace a home economics major whose side line was bashing other translations. Her name is Gail Riplinger. Funny, how Sean never read her books, researched anything about her, (other than watched a video when his wife wanted to buy a new NIV) yet, offered us Gail Riplinger's video like it was manna from heaven?
Sean also believes he has some sort of special calling to straighten people out, which can become tedious when a person believes they are the hammer and we are nothing more than nails.
Sean bumbles his way through the forum, getting angry, having emotional melt downs, tantrums, anytime he is opposed or doesn't have a defense for a post he needs to answer.
Also pretty much (as he posted in another thread) believes that God will one day force by violence everyone to be righteous. So, I guess Sean is getting a head start on God and doing some preemptive strikes of his own. So, in the real world (of face to face) Sean would be ignored, made to puppy down, or in a church situation shown the door with the swift kick from the left foot of fellowship. Swords literally coming out of the mouth of Jesus, while yet the winepress He is treading is symbolic? Nothing to understand, because Sean, doesn't understand, and Sean doesn't want to understand, because Sean wants only to be the great leader, the corrector of what he sees as wrongs, and the punisher of all those who oppose his words. 
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10-12-2015, 06:59 AM
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Re: Some standing here
hard to expect much more from recruiting people in fear, and insisting that you have the only path to salvation.
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10-12-2015, 07:27 AM
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Re: Some standing here
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Originally Posted by shazeep
hard to expect much more from recruiting people in fear, and insisting that you have the only path to salvation.
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