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Read further to Galatians 2:14


But I saw that they were not properly following the truth of the Gospel. So I told Peter in front of everyone, "You're Judean, but you live like a person who is not of Judea. So how can you insist that people who are not Judean must live like Judeans? Just a little straightening out Peter not understanding the teachings. James tells Paul that thousands of Judeans have become Apostolics, been baptized in Jesus name and keep the law of Moses. Because they still continued in the Law in the temple because the temple was still standing. Paul understood he and the other Judean Christians had to continue in the Law system while the temple still stood. Yet, the understood that the precepts, and constructs of the law did nothing for them because the Messiah had come. They had understanding that the schoolmaster had done his job, and they were in the new and living way. Yet, they were to continue to be all things to all men. To the Judean, they were to be Judean, to the Greek they were to be Greek. Yet, Peter got all this a little botched up, and took it to an extreme. Where he separated himself from the Apostolic Greek Romans. Making everyone look bad, while he still had boudin in his teeth. Peter drew away other brothers. Paul had to straighten it all out because it was Peter's fault.

11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed. 12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles:but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.

Peters motivation for snubbing the Gentiles wasn't that he didn't know the truth of the gospel and needed a little more teaching. It was for fear of what others might think about him. Peter was wrong.

14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

Paul rebuked Peter in front of them all because it was something they all needed to hear. Those snobby Jews acted the way they did much out of ignorance. Peter on the other hand, had already been spoken to by God on the subject. Peter was afraid of what the Jews would think of him. Paul by calling out Peter actually teaches the whole bunch. Peter was actually following the crowd to do wrong.

[good samaritan]

1 Jhn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins:and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

This all I am meanting if we fail. No excuses just get up and go again.

[good samaritan]

Galations 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

We should set the bar at sin not, but for those that have fallen we should seek for their restoration. Is this what you have been saying EB?

[Amanah]

I hear a lot of "God is the God of second chances" preaching. I could use a little more hell is hot but heaven is not.

Preachers use to preach

• if you are not reading your bible, praying, and talking in tongues every day, you are lost
• you need to pray for a burden and win souls.
• Be at the church 30-60 minutes before service for pre service prayer
• worship God like its a rapture test
• Get right or get left
• If you look like the world and talk like the world, guess what

[Amanah]

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

Peters motivation for snubbing the Gentiles wasn't that he didn't know the truth of the gospel and needed a little more teaching. It was for fear of what others might think about him. Peter was wrong.



Paul rebuked Peter in front of them all because it was something they all needed to hear. Those snobby Jews acted the way they did much out of ignorance. Peter on the other hand, had already been spoken to by God on the subject. Peter was afraid of what the Jews would think of him. Paul by calling out Peter actually teaches the whole bunch. Peter was actually following the crowd to do wrong.

Peter understood what Paul understood. Paul and Peter understood that they were continuing in the law just like the Apostolic Judeans in Jerusalem. They both understood that the weren't under the bondage of the Law. They did it because they were to be all things to all men. The law while the temple was still standing. The law was still the schoolmaster to lead the Judaic Judeans to Christ. Paul knew this, Peter knew this. Peter separated himself keeping his thoughts secret hence the reason why the KJV translators chose to interpret the Greek ὑποκρίσει with the English "dissimulation. The KJV translators were attempting to show that Peter was doing all this covertly. Yet, Paul notices because Peter was influencing other ministers. As far as Peter denying the Romans like He denied Christ? we just don't have all that information. We know that every jot and tittle was still within the law practices until the temple comes down. We understand that after James hears Paul's testimony of what he had accomplished in the Gospel among the Romans. James witnesses to Paul concerning thousands of Judeans who were converted and were all zealous of the law Acts 21:20-22

There was a rumor that Paul didn't keep Torah, and was preaching to Diaspora Judeans that they should also not keep Torah. Yet, the Jerusalem church advised Paul to go to the temple for ritual washings concerning a Nazarite vow which Paul was keeping at the time. Paul kept a vow when he was with Aquila and Priscilla. In Acts 20:1-6 Paul kept Passover, in Acts 20:16 Paul hastened to go to Jerusalem for the festival of Pentecost. He did these things to be all things to all men that he might save some. When he meets Peter in Galatia, Peter was trying to do the same thing, but acted out of secrecy, and fear. People get off track, and Paul helped Peter get back on track through stern explanation. Peter remembers his brother in his own epistle 2 Peter 3:16. Peter goes on to say, "consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved Brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him. Paul writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction."

As far as Peter already getting told by God about the issue. Barak was told by God before he went to Deborah. She tells him this, and he tells her that he wouldn't go unless she went along for the ride. She then tells him because he needed to drag a woman into battle. He wouldn't get the honor, but a woman would God use to win the war. Embarrassing for Barak but not sinful. Because in Hebrews 11 Barak is a hero of faith, not Deborah, or Jael.

So, let me ask you about this, why is this section with Peter important to our current discussion?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

This all I am meaning if we fail. No excuses just get up and go again.

That's fine, when you are dealing with neophytes. Yet, in the very same epistle you have the same writer make this statement in the very next chapter.

1 John 3:8 the one who continually practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.

There has to be a place where you have to come to τέλος full age adult, complete. You have to get weened from nursing, or you need to be taught again, the first principles of the doctrine of Christ. Peter explains how we start as infants but must grow up 1 Peter 2:2-3. Yet, the writer of Hebrews explains that you can't be a child forever, you need to get off the wet nursing Hebrews 5:11-13.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

We should set the bar at sin not, but for those that have fallen we should seek for their restoration. Is this what you have been saying EB?

Brother, what I've been saying is that little children have an advocate with the father. The New Testament language is babes in Christ, little children, sons, young men, elders. There has to be a place where we have to come to maturity in Christ. Or else you and I fall under what is found in Hebrews 6:4-6 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. we read three chapters later in Hebrews 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

Bro, we need to grow up, and we know better. If I don't change your oil filter, or adjust the rear chain on your bike. If I leave your sheet rock out in the rain, if I don't put bar and chain oil in the chain saw when I cut down big wood. I know better, just like you and I we know better. Therefore for us, it might just be a harder way to go. James 3:1 gives a good admonishment, and one that we need to pay attention.

Thank you for staying with me within this discussion.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I hear a lot of "God is the God of second chances" preaching. I could use a little more hell is hot but heaven is not.

Preachers use to preach

• if you are not reading your bible, praying, and talking in tongues every day, you are lost
• you need to pray for a burden and win souls.
• Be at the church 30-60 minutes before service for pre service prayer
• worship God like its a rapture test
• Get right or get left
• If you look like the world and talk like the world, guess what

Amen!

Live like you were dying. Gives you a whole different perspective on things. Or go with out Gumbo, and Boudin for a few years. Stop eating bacon for a week. You will sober up right quick.

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Peter understood what Paul understood. Paul and Peter understood that they were continuing in the law just like the Apostolic Judeans in Jerusalem. They both understood that the weren't under the bondage of the Law. They did it because they were to be all things to all men. The law while the temple was still standing. The law was still the schoolmaster to lead the Judaic Judeans to Christ. Paul knew this, Peter knew this. Peter separated himself keeping his thoughts secret hence the reason why the KJV translators chose to interpret the Greek ὑποκρίσει with the English "dissimulation. The KJV translators were attempting to show that Peter was doing all this covertly. Yet, Paul notices because Peter was influencing other ministers. As far as Peter denying the Romans like He denied Christ? we just don't have all that information. We know that every jot and tittle was still within the law practices until the temple comes down. We understand that after James hears Paul's testimony of what he had accomplished in the Gospel among the Romans. James witnesses to Paul concerning thousands of Judeans who were converted and were all zealous of the law Acts 21:20-22

There was a rumor that Paul didn't keep Torah, and was preaching to Diaspora Judeans that they should also not keep Torah. Yet, the Jerusalem church advised Paul to go to the temple for ritual washings concerning a Nazarite vow which Paul was keeping at the time. Paul kept a vow when he was with Aquila and Priscilla. In Acts 20:1-6 Paul kept Passover, in Acts 20:16 Paul hastened to go to Jerusalem for the festival of Pentecost. He did these things to be all things to all men that he might save some. When he meets Peter in Galatia, Peter was trying to do the same thing, but acted out of secrecy, and fear. People get off track, and Paul helped Peter get back on track through stern explanation. Peter remembers his brother in his own epistle 2 Peter 3:16. Peter goes on to say, "consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved Brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him. Paul writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction."

As far as Peter already getting told by God about the issue. Barak was told by God before he went to Deborah. She tells him this, and he tells her that he wouldn't go unless she went along for the ride. She then tells him because he needed to drag a woman into battle. He wouldn't get the honor, but a woman would God use to win the war. Embarrassing for Barak but not sinful. Because in Hebrews 11 Barak is a hero of faith, not Deborah, or Jael.

So, let me ask you about this, why is this section with Peter important to our current discussion?

Moral failure. I gave some examples of where some biblical Men of God went wrong or at least may have went wrong.