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Old 06-18-2008, 07:13 PM
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Re: Witchcraft = medication

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Oneness Man, you really take the biscuit.

First, you start a thread in which you unapologetically trash me and every person in the pharmacy field because God showed you that medication = witchcraft and pharmacists, past and present, are warlocks and witches, even though it was Strongs opinion and not the Bible as you assert.

Then you turn around and tell people that it's not a sin to take medication. How is it sinless to take something put together by a warlock or witch? If a warlock puts together a concoction for you and you take it, you're guilty by association.

Finally, you wonder if it's permissible to use natural medications. Well brother, you should be consistent and avoid them, because aroma-therapeutic and homeopathic medications in the USA are put together by companies under the direction of, you guessed it, a pharmacist.

You probably don't have any witch hazel in your home, for obvious reasons, but you should in fact go the whole way and purge your home of hand creams, dry eye drops, anti-biotic and anti-itch ointments and creams (i.e. Neosporin, hydrocortisone), rubbing alcohol, and nearly everything in your first aid kit and medicine cabinet. If your wife might use anything like foundation, astringent, eye cream, foot cream, or anything similar, you should probably get rid of those as well, since they are formulated and produced under the direct supervision of a pharmacist.

G-d bless you and your family. May he give you wisdom in the area of putting all the worms back in the can you opened up.
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Old 06-19-2008, 03:51 AM
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Re: Witchcraft = medication

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You assume that I am trashing you, but you're wrong and that is your right to be wrong.
I'm convinced you would not even know if you have offended someone. This is not a good quality to have if you plan on being a Pastor. I hope you do become a Pastor and at the same time, hope you gain a sense of awareness and perspective of your surroundings and your future flock.

I chose the field of pharmacy because I wanted to help people and it felt good to know that my profession has roots which go all the way back to the first Temple in the wilderness, when The LORD required the skills of an Apothecary to make the Anointing Oil and Incense for the Priesthood's use. We have the title of 'pharmacist' but we are apothecaries and have been since Aaron.

Are we a pill society? Yes, without question.
Is there is a connection between an apothecary who made the Anointing Oil and the sorcerer from Revelation 9? No.
Is there a connection between the sorcerer from Revelation 9 and today's friendly neighborhood pharmacist? No.

Strong's saying it does not make it so, just like Hitler saying over and over that the Jews were the cause of the world's problems did not make it Truth.

You say it's in the Bible, but it's not. It's actually in Strong's and his colleagues' interpretation of that particular word in Galatians 5 and Revelation 9. Had I known that you are preparing to take the IT world by storm, I would have chosen a more linear form of communicating the following to you:

Strongs ≠ Bible

Strong's is not Bible. Here's an interesting perspective from Wikipedia:

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Strong's Concordance is not a translation of the Bible nor is it intended as a translation tool. The use of Strong's numbers is not a substitute for professional translation of the Bible from Hebrew and Greek into English by those with formal training in ancient languages and the literature of the cultures in which the Bible was written.

Since Strong's Concordance identifies the original words in Hebrew and Greek, Strong's Numbers are sometimes misinterpreted by those without adequate training to change the Bible from its accurate meaning simply by taking the words out of cultural context.

The use of Strong's numbers does not consider figures of speech, metaphors, idioms, common phrases, cultural references, references to historical events, or alternate meanings used by those of the time period to express their thoughts in their own language at the time.

As such, professionals and amateurs alike must consult a number of contextual tools to reconstruct these cultural backgrounds. Many scholarly Greek and Hebrew Lexicons (e.g., Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew Lexicon, Thayer's Greek Dictionary, and Vine's Bible Dictionary) also use Strong's numbers for cross-referencing, encouraging hermeneutical approaches to study.
Dr. Strong and his colleagues put together a masterful concordance, but while it is helpful, it is not by any means, 100% accurate. Dr. Strong is not the author and finisher of our faith.

One other thing: I have attended the same Oneness church since I became a Believer in the Messiah since 1996, under the same Pastor who has led scores of people out of life-draining careers and into more spiritually-enriching, satisfying, and prosperous careers. He would not hesitate to tell me if I was engaged in a career associated with sorcery.

May God bless you in your future IT career.
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Old 06-18-2008, 12:14 PM
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Listen if you choose not to take pills I respect that.You should stay with your convictions.
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Listen if you choose not to take pills I respect that.You should stay with your convictions.
go not eat your meat and I will!
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Old 06-18-2008, 12:38 PM
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Thank you.
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Old 06-18-2008, 12:28 PM
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I love meat epesically Fried Chicken,Shrimp,Steak.
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I love meat epesically Fried Chicken,Shrimp,Steak.
I don't eat pork or beef....
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Old 06-18-2008, 12:40 PM
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I love meat epesically Fried Chicken,Shrimp,Steak.
Amen on that Brother!!!

BTW, How is the church going?
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Re: Witchcraft = medication

Teenager from faith-healing family dies in Oregon

Wed Jun 18, 8:25 PM EDT
Authorities say a teenager from a faith-healing family died from an illness that could have been easily treated, just a few months after a toddler cousin of his died in a case that has led to criminal charges.

Tuesday's death of 16-year-old Neil Beagley, however, may not be a crime because Oregon law allows minors 14 and older to decide for themselves whether to accept medical treatment.

"All of the interviews from last night are that he did in fact refuse treatment," police Sgt. Lynne Benton said Wednesday. "Unless we can disprove that, charges probably won't be filed in this case."

An autopsy Wednesday showed Beagley died of heart failure caused by a urinary tract blockage.

He likely had a congenital condition that constricted his urinary tract where the bladder empties into the urethra, and the condition of his organs indicates he had multiple blockages during his life, said Dr. Clifford Nelson, deputy state medical examiner for Clackamas County.

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http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...Healing.Death/
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Teenager from faith-healing family dies in Oregon

Wed Jun 18, 8:25 PM EDT
Authorities say a teenager from a faith-healing family died from an illness that could have been easily treated, just a few months after a toddler cousin of his died in a case that has led to criminal charges.

Tuesday's death of 16-year-old Neil Beagley, however, may not be a crime because Oregon law allows minors 14 and older to decide for themselves whether to accept medical treatment.

"All of the interviews from last night are that he did in fact refuse treatment," police Sgt. Lynne Benton said Wednesday. "Unless we can disprove that, charges probably won't be filed in this case."

An autopsy Wednesday showed Beagley died of heart failure caused by a urinary tract blockage.

He likely had a congenital condition that constricted his urinary tract where the bladder empties into the urethra, and the condition of his organs indicates he had multiple blockages during his life, said Dr. Clifford Nelson, deputy state medical examiner for Clackamas County.

See rest of the story:
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...Healing.Death/
Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
this is an extremely good point.

No amount of commitment to ones dogma warrents allowing your child to die.

(Please note, I am not suggesting in any way that O-man or tbpew fall into that catagory.)
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