Which translation do you enjoy?

[Steven Avery]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

Then there is Acts 2:17. Is it kurios or theos ??

Just check the pure Bible, God == theos.

Acts 2:17 AV
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God,
I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh:
and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
and your young men shall see visions,
and your old men shall dream dreams:

This is what the mass of Greek mss read. There are some mss. where it says "saith the Lord", which we can smile at and ignore. John Gill has good commentary, and mentions offhand that some Vulgate and Ethiopic mss have the Lord.

It looks like you are only trying to make the point that you do not know what the Bible actually reads in 1000s of places. That you have become thoroughly confused by the faux science of textual criticism.

Do you attack Jesus as being angry in Mark 1:41? That was my last post.

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

So .. what do you think I "overlooked"?
....'

That is the type of nonsense that let to the mangling of this beautiful verse in some modern versions:

Mark 1:41
And Jesus, moved with compassion,
put forth his hand,
and touched him,
and saith unto him,
I will; be thou clean.

Now they are attacking the integrity of the Lord Jesus Christ. Simply because Codex Bezae has a piddle retro-version corruption, an abomination, saying that Jesus was angry, rather that being moved with compassion.

Our top brainiac textual critics (to whom our posters think we should do proper obeisance) think this attack on Jesus must be original simply because it is "harder" (lectio difficilior), which turns logic and sense upside down. This type of lunacy was ridiculed by Martin Litchfield West, but irrationality and lack of faith and Bible belief rules the modern textual criticism roost.

So .. what do you think I "overlooked"?

[Steven Avery]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

Let the specialists do their research. Read their articles, Thank God for their unique contribution to society.

However, they have paradigms of the text that are false and anti-God. Their basic tude is doubt and lack of faith and man over God. So you are thanking God for the dark-side,

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

However, they have paradigms of the text that are false and anti-God. Their basic tude is doubt and lack of faith and man over God. So you are thanking God for the dark-side,

[Steven Avery]

Originally Posted by coksiw

Steven, Esaias, you believe that God preserved his word through the Orthodox Church,

A very off-base analysis.

The Reformation Bible utilized the Greek and Latin manuscripts (also the Syriac line played a supportive role), as well as the wealth of early church writer scripture referencing, as well as sound textual principles.

This led to the beautiful, pure Bible translated around the world. And the apex edition, the Authorized Version, which remains today the one edition not to be excepted against.

And I have no idea who you mean by the "Orthodox Church". The Catholics have been fierce enemies of the Reformation Bible, and NEVER print an edition, since the Council of Trent and the Index of Forbidden Books.

The Greek Orthodox have done better, allowing a couple of the major Reformation Bible corrections to correct their Greek manuscripts. (Acts 8:37 and the heavenly witnesses, especially.) However, their Orthodox Church Greek manuscripts was only one constiuent part of the preservation, and had some problems.

Originally Posted by coksiw

You pretend to know what you are talking about when you go deeper into TC itself. You pretend to know how to handle and interpret the low-level text facts correctly and how to come to the right conclusions.

If you are going to bandy about petty insults, then I challenge you to give actual examples where I 'pretend'.

Lacking that, your most honorable path would be an apology.

[Ehud]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Today we have become the United States of Opinion. Pastor Google, and Bishop YouTubes has led us into a plethora of whatever we want to believe. Giving us good arguments why we should believe it. Good because we know enough to be dangerous.

I don’t think I have ever agreed with anything more in my entire life.

I do a lot of self-study, but I am a slow reader and it takes me a great deal of time to make any headway. One reason I wanted to join this forum was because you folks say things and bring up points that I don’t encounter in my usual studies. It’s also why I ask so many questions. I fully recognize that I might not be right, but my hope is to get right if i’m not.

The last thing I want is to get so entrenched in something that I become part of Pastor Google’s congregation. So to each of you who has taken the time to respond to my often times poorly posed questions, I truly do appreciate it.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by coksiw View Post
Steven, Esaias, you believe that God preserved his word through the Orthodox Church,

Where did I say that? What do you mean by "Orthodox Church"?

I do believe the Scriptures have been preserved by Christians. I don't see God allowing antichrists and infidels to safeguard His Word.

Please explain. BTW, I am not KJ Only, as I mentioned previously.

[coksiw]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

Textual criticism of the New Testament begins with learning the language. Preferably in a college classroom.

There is something to be said for having a professor providing direction and correct errors early on.

Few ever learn the language. Let alone learning lexical semantics. Toss in some text linguistics. After college try and stay caught up on the literature.

30 years later, I defer to known textual critics. I will never be a textual critic.

Let the specialists do their research. Read their articles, Thank God for their unique contribution to society.

I wonder how many of us actually can read and write koine Greek. BTW, everyone that can read and write koine is suspicious of conspiring or heretic

[coksiw]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Originally Posted by coksiw View Post
Steven, Esaias, you believe that God preserved his word through the Orthodox Church,

Where did I say that? What do you mean by "Orthodox Church"?

I do believe the Scriptures have been preserved by Christians. I don't see God allowing antichrists and infidels to safeguard His Word.

Please explain. BTW, I am not KJ Only, as I mentioned previously.

Wasn't the TR based on Byzantine manuscripts? and wasn't the Byzantine manuscripts from the Eastern church, which is known today as the Orthodox Church?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by coksiw

I wonder how many of us actually can read and write koine Greek. BTW, everyone that can read and write koine is suspicious of conspiring or heretic

[coksiw]

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

However, they have paradigms of the text that are false and anti-God. Their basic tude is doubt and lack of faith and man over God. So you are thanking God for the dark-side,

That's your opinion, your attack on people's credibility by calling out what you think their intentions and believes are. Again, do you really think Erasums knew the true God and walked his ways?