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Sean · #**181** 10-12-2015, 08:17 AM

I am glad that you preterists clearly saw the metaphors(lies) you have made up, regarding the book of Revelation, etc.

The personal attacks reveal that in particular

Sean · #**182** 10-12-2015, 08:17 AM

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Sign
1.
a token; indication.
2.
any object, action, event, pattern, etc., that conveys a meaning.
3.
a conventional or arbitrary mark, figure, or symbol used as an abbreviation for the word or words it represents.
4.
a motion or gesture used to express or convey an idea, command, decision, etc.:
Her nod was a sign that it was time to leave.
5.
a notice, bearing a name, direction, warning, or advertisement, that is displayed or posted for public view:
a traffic sign; a store sign.

met·a·phor
ˈmedəˌfôr,ˈmedəˌfər/
noun
a figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to an object or action to which it is not literally applicable.(lie, regarding God's word)

a thing regarded as representative or symbolic of something else, especially something abstract.(Lie, regarding God's word)

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Sean · #**183** 10-12-2015, 08:18 AM

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You see, if I tell you something, and you tell me I meant something else, that is saying, "I thought you were METAPHORICALLY speaking about something else".

But in reality, you lied about what I originally said.

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Sean · #**184** 10-12-2015, 08:18 AM

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To clarify, I read Rev. verbatim, but notice the "signs" from time to time. They help me understand what is said.

However, I must not re-invent the meaning with these signs.

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Sean · #**185** 10-12-2015, 08:19 AM

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For instance....11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

John saw a visual image(sign) of the heaven and earth destroyed(since it had not happened yet)....

This(sign) represented a real heaven and a real earth though.

But the metaphorist says...

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the Jews and the Law fled away; and there was found no place for them.

The metaphorist just committed a lie.

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Sean · #**186** 10-12-2015, 08:21 AM

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But the metaphorist says...

2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the Church, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the Church were for the healing of the nations.

The metaphorist just committed a lie.

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Sean · #**187** 10-12-2015, 08:21 AM

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But the metaphorist says...

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Roman armies be.....

35 Temple and Jews shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

The metaphorist just committed a lie.

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Sean · #**188** 10-12-2015, 08:22 AM

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But the metaphorist says...

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the Temple shall pass away with a great noise, and the Jewish Law shall melt with fervent heat, the Jews also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the Temple being on fire shall be dissolved, and the Jewish Law shall melt with fervent heat?

The metaphorist just committed a lie.

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Evang.Benincasa · #**189** 10-12-2015, 08:33 AM

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Yes Bowas is awesome and you are pathetic.

OK, the sword is literal because it is proceeding out of Jesus' body?

But the winepress isn't coming out of His body, therefore it isn't physical?

Does anyone on this forum even take this guy seriously?

mfblume · #**190** 10-12-2015, 09:43 AM

Sean, how dishonest can a person get? You said a sign is not a metaphor. And I quoted this from a writer who has nothing to do with preterism, the bible or anything spiritul.

[1 A general remark on metaphor may be in place. For detail we refer the
reader to [11] and, much briefer, to [14]. Coyne, in the subtitle of his
remarkable book [3], announces a paradigmatic shift of the focus of
systems design. Before these, Canfield Smith had introduced powerful
metaphors that have ever since governed graphic interfaces [19]. As we
use it here, a metaphor is a sign, or system of signs, to denotate an object
(or system of objects) in such a way that two interpretants are invoked.

From: http://www.agis.informatik.uni-breme...seWhispers.pdf

A METAPHOR IS A SIGN!

How can you stand there and blatantly lie like you do about this? Where in God's good earth is there a grain of honesty in your heart?