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Old 01-28-2009, 01:31 PM
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Re: Bishop SC Johnson

He also taught that the world was in gross darkness before he came and revealed the truth. Now, his followers are telling others that and trying to make people follow them. That is an error. There are many who have come to a point of idolotry because of these teachings.

I think this is bigger than saying this man made an error so let's over look him. People are still waiting on him to be resurrected from the dead because they believe in him and him only. This is about the sould rather than a person making a mistake. Bishop Johnson made himself clear that NO ONE else had truth except him. That is why this discussion is even taking place right now.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:37 PM
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He also taught that the world was in gross darkness before he came and revealed the truth. Now, his followers are telling others that and trying to make people follow them. That is an error. There are many who have come to a point of idolotry because of these teachings.

I think this is bigger than saying this man made an error so let's over look him. People are still waiting on him to be resurrected from the dead because they believe in him and him only. This is about the sould rather than a person making a mistake. Bishop Johnson made himself clear that NO ONE else had truth except him. That is why this discussion is even taking place right now.
Sorry, I don't throw the "c" word around a lot , but to me, this kind of stuff is borderline cultic.

What about Holy Ghost filled, One God, Jesus name baptized folks in countries all over the world who never heard of SC Johnson?
Are they not saved? Do they not have revealed truth from God also?
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:51 PM
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Sorry, I don't throw the "c" word around a lot , but to me, this kind of stuff is borderline cultic.
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Yes, very much so.

Among Oneness Pentecostals there are several groups and individual congregations that are just plain cults --no other way to describe it-- and that is within the UPC and other organizations too.
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He also taught that the world was in gross darkness before he came and revealed the truth. Now, his followers are telling others that and trying to make people follow them. That is an error. There are many who have come to a point of idolotry because of these teachings.

I think this is bigger than saying this man made an error so let's over look him. People are still waiting on him to be resurrected from the dead because they believe in him and him only. This is about the sould rather than a person making a mistake. Bishop Johnson made himself clear that NO ONE else had truth except him. That is why this discussion is even taking place right now.
Martha: YOU HAVE TOTALLY LOST YOUR MIND! THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO ONE WHO BELIEVES BISHOP JOHNSON IS GOING TO BE RESURRECTED, NOT BEFORE THE FIRST RESURRECTION. We believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and savior. We believe that Jesus Christ is God Almighty. Bishop Johnson was just his servant. I hear a personal tone in your posts as if you personally knew Bishop Johnson, might have once been a member of his church, or personally knew someone in his church. Which is it? I tell no one to FOLLOW ME because THEY CAN'T. No one was preaching the truth before Bishop Johnson came and no one has preached it since he died. Take that for what you will but as for myself, I'm scripturally astute enough to make my own evaluation based on what I've seen and heard in the religious world today. Oh, yes, I've heard a lot outside of Bishop Johnson's teachings but it didn't take long before I saw and heard the lies in their teaching. And they're always the same lies: 1. Just accept Jesus where you are. 2. I believe if you prayed that prayer you've been saved? 3. It's perfectly acceptble and alright with God if you marry while you have a living husband or wife. 4. It's alright to live with that man/woman, just as long as you "plan on" marrying later. 5. Water baptism in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost is how you should be baptized. 6. All you need is the baptism of the Holy Ghost. 7. You don't have to be baptized in water AT ALL. 8. You don't have to speak in tongues to be filled with the Holy Ghost. 9. You don't have to be filled with the Holy Ghost. 10. You're saved the minute you "accept Christ into your heart". 11. The gospel at pentecost was FOR THE JEWS ONLY. 12. The Gentiles only have to follow the teaching of Apostle Paul after Acts 28:28, because he was apostle to the Gentiles;the rest was for the Jews. 13. The latest epistles written by Apostle take precedence over the earleir ones. 14. The dispensation of grace began with Eph. 15. 16. The New Testament church started after Acts 28:28. 17. The Acts of the Apostles before Acts 28:28 do not apply to Gentiles. 18. Water baptism is a "work" of the law. 19. It's okay for women to preach, be bishops, ministers and deacons. 20. Women can dress any way they want, without any restrictions and still be considered dressed as becomes godliness. 21. I'm sure there's more but these are the ones that come to mind. I know better than any of this apostasy because I've been taught what the bible says about it and I can read the bible for myself and see what the bible says about it. Where do you fall in this list?

I'm with Bishop Johnson: No one had the truth but him.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:42 PM
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TRFrance, those are the questions I can never get a straight answer to. Bishop Johnson and his congregants have a monopoly on truth and according to them, if you want it it has to come from him.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:55 PM
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I will say that I don't believe that Bishop Johnson's intentions started out this way. He was so sure that Jesus would return in his lifetime. It didn't work out that way.
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Old 01-28-2009, 02:01 PM
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What did Bishop Johnson teach on hair length and head coverings?
Is he considered infallible on that among Oneness Pentecostals?
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What did Bishop Johnson teach on hair length and head coverings?
Is he considered infallible on that among Oneness Pentecostals?
There are some things in his dress code that I believe aren't mentioned in the scripture and there things are debateable even today. But things like gross darkness, and him being the ONLY one that is right is complete and utter error.
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Old 01-28-2009, 02:32 PM
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Re: Bishop SC Johnson

Now I'm really confused.

As a good Oneness Pentecostal person, whom should I accept as the "last" apostle of this church age?
Bishop S.C. Johnson?
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Bill Branham?

Are there any books or position papers out of St. Louis that can help me with that? Have any of the UPC officials addressed this issue? Does UGST have anything published on this?
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I will say that I don't believe that Bishop Johnson's intentions started out this way. He was so sure that Jesus would return in his lifetime. It didn't work out that way.
Wasn't that what the apostles thought on the day of pentecost?
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