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08-17-2007, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Timmy
Wow, interesting thread! Haven't read it all (later, maybe), but it doesn't seem that anybody has posted this scripture yet:
Luke 22:35 And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing. 36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. 37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end. 38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.
To me, it looks like Jesus is saying we ought to have some protection for ourselves. Why else would he instruct his disciples to buy a sword, if they don't have one? And they find two swords and he says that's enough, so no need to go overboard, either. Moderation! Common sense!
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Jesus told them that two swords were enough for twelve men? If that's the way you interpret that scripture than pick the two Christians in the entire world that should own the two guns. 
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08-17-2007, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferd
Tell you what. you give me ONE scripture from the New Testement that tells us to use music in our services and I will give you ONE scripture from the New Testement that says we can own weapons.
lets start with that.
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First, this question makes no sense. I have offered many scriptures that agree with what I am saying. The burden of proof is on your side.
As far as the two swords, these men went out in pairs of two, correct? There were 12 men, correct? So figuring that these two swords went out with two groups, what did the other five groups use for protection? This is too funny!
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08-17-2007, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Jesus told them that two swords were enough for twelve men? If that's the way you interpret that scripture than pick the two Christians in the entire world that should own the two guns.
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I Did not see your post. Great minds.... 
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08-17-2007, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Jesus told them that two swords were enough for twelve men? If that's the way you interpret that scripture than pick the two Christians in the entire world that should own the two guns.
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Oh please!
What nonesense!
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08-17-2007, 10:19 AM
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some things just come naturally elder, we dont have to have a biblical commmandment for all behavior do we, lol, i sure dont, some things i just gotta do, like deer hunt, lol, dt   |
Deer hunting? You know a lot of criminals who are deer? Any deer starting any wars? What about fishing poles and fishing hooks? We are talking about self-defense and what the Bible TEACHES on it. Jesus said turn the other cheek, and therefore by Jesus' teaching they were not to retaliate. That's pretty simple.
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08-17-2007, 10:20 AM
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I think this has come down to a waste of time.
Some folks take stubborn to a whole new level. 
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08-17-2007, 10:20 AM
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Oh please!
What nonesense!
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It's just not nonsense when it fits your agenda. Sister do you own a handgun?
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08-17-2007, 10:20 AM
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It's just not nonsense when it fits your agenda. Sister do you own a handgun?
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More than one.
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08-17-2007, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Deer hunting? You know a lot of criminals who are deer? Any deer starting any wars? What about fishing poles and fishing hooks? We are talking about self-defense and what the Bible TEACHES on it. Jesus said turn the other cheek, and therefore by Jesus' teaching they were not to retaliate. That's pretty simple.
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deer hunting isnt the only thing people do with guns, defending my family comes kind of natural to me also, along with serving my country, you have a great family, god bless you, take care of them brother, dt
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08-17-2007, 10:23 AM
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Rivers of blood
This little boat of consciencious pacifism and nonviolence has sailed this far only because it floats in a river of blood of the patriots. The practice and even attainment of the mindset of pacifism is a luxury bestowed upon its practitioners by men who knew that freedom of conscience and religion were worth dying for.
Christian pacifism has its roots in the Anabaptist tradition, which early on had some serious P.R. issues to contend with. Some of the early Anabaptists went loony, conquered the town of Munster, and promoted polygamy and other such horseplay at the behest of "heavenly visions." This only lasted for a couple years, but their surviving contemporaries in the new movement of adult baptism, or re-baptism, needed to stress that they were completely devoid of dominion theology, and completely unlike those "Munsters," lest they be stamped out like the group at Munster was. The cages in which the bodies of the tortured and executed ringleaders were allowed to rot still hang from the steeple of the church in Munster, Germany. The origins of Christian pacifism are reactionary in nature. Some may call it cowardice, and some may say it was the pragmatism of survival. I would fight in the American Revolution or in the Confederate Army, if I were in those times.
Some things simply don't need explaining, or chapter and verse, to be acceptable practice. Brother Strange has very clearly and patiently shown this, and why.
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