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12-24-2007, 04:00 PM
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12-24-2007, 05:27 PM
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Praxeas, do you believe that no one before the cross was forgiven of their sins, and so were lost?
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12-24-2007, 05:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cneasttx
Praxeas, do you believe that no one before the cross was forgiven of their sins, and so were lost?
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Of course not. My point was that their sins were not literally wiped out until Christ died, until then they were considered by God to be forgiven...in other words he treated them that way because of their faith. They were justifed by faith.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-24-2007, 08:26 PM
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Then why did they have the blood sacrifices and how were they forgiven of their sins?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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12-25-2007, 01:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cneasttx
Then why did they have the blood sacrifices and how were they forgiven of their sins?
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Keep reading...we posted the verses that answer that
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-24-2007, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
It's been taught that in the OT because the blood of lambs and bulls never could cleans sins that the sins of the OT believers were rolled ahead until the time of Christ. Were they forgiven in the OT? Were their sins washed away before Christ died?
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No
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