Is beauty a sin?

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Idiots may have this perception, but please don't make this a broad brush statement toward Apostolic men.

It is absolutely not accurate.

I have been surrounded by beautiful Apostolic women my whole life, and sought one out and married her.

Pastor Coonskinner,

I try not to broad-brush stroke here because I know you are correct. Not all Apostolic men are this way. Thank-you for correcting me. What does amaze me is the many women who have the same mind-think as many Apostolic men. I sat through a couple weeks teaching on modesty and holiness and a Godly woman telling all the women that we are our brother's keeper and should not wear or do anything that would cause them to lust. I about fell out of my chair on that one. A man or woman will lust coming from struggles within their own heart and they cannot be blamed on women who look pretty.

Respectfully,
Rhoni

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Trouvere

I was reading Mark Yandris's thread this am on standards and wondering after being part of the apostolic movement for twenty plus years
some things that maybe some of you have thoughts about.
1.Is it a sin to be beautiful? Do we have to hide our women behind amish(sorry Bro.Hoover) and period costumes?
2.Do we have to give up the salon if we don't cut out hair? I go for the great deep shampoo and hot drier condition.
3.Is a manicure and pedicure a sin if you don't use colored makeup and go for the french or american look?
4.Is it a just an attempt for men who want to be cheap and make their wives exist on a plain...and I mean plain level?
5.Can a person retain a holy appearance and life style with balance and not go over the top and become really worldly? just some thoughts.

How about some answers while not crucifying those who do or don't?

Yes. God did not intend for humanity to be beautiful, and anyone who is needs to repent................... okay, this is a poor attempt at humor.....carry on.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Pastor Coonskinner,

I try not to broad-brush stroke here because I know you are correct. Not all Apostolic men are this way. Thank-you for correcting me. What does amaze me is the many women who have the same mind-think as many Apostolic men. I sat through a couple weeks teaching on modesty and holiness and a Godly woman telling all the women that we are our brother's keeper and should not wear or do anything that would cause them to lust. I about fell out of my chair on that one. A man or woman will lust coming from struggles within their own heart and they cannot be blamed on women who look pretty.

Respectfully,
Rhoni

Sister,

Every man is tempted when he is drawn away of his own lust and enticed.

A man is responsible for his own sin.

But women are also responsibleto God if they are immodest. Not pretty--immodest.

I have nothing to add!

Thanks, CS.

[revrandy]

I too believe my wife is in trouble if beauty is a sin!!!!

the truth I think is what is in a woman's heart will be evident in her attitude and spirit towards living for God....

Proverbs 31
10Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.

11The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.

12She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.

13She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.

14She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.

15She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.

16She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.

17She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.

18She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.

19She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.

20She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.

21She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.

Here she takes care of herself...somewhat treats herself...
22She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.

23Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.

24She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.

25Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.

26She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.


Here she takes care of her body....I don't she lays around eating Bom-Bom's in pink house shoes....

27She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.

What more could a Woman ask for?

28Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.

29Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.

30Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.

31Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates

[Sister Alvear]

Attending to maintenance of hygiene and health should not be subject to debate. (Taken from O.P.)
While it might not be a subject to debate it needs to be addressed....

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Attending to maintenance of hygiene and health should not be subject to debate. (Taken from O.P.)
While it might not be a subject to debate it needs to be addressed....

Sadly, for some folks, "hygeine" is pretty much just a greeting.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Trouvere

[SIZE="4"]I was reading Mark Yandris's thread this am on standards and wondering after being part of the apostolic movement for twenty plus years
some things that maybe some of you have thoughts about.
1.Is it a sin to be beautiful? Do we have to hide our women behind amish(sorry Bro.Hoover) and period costumes?

There are several statements in this one.

Is it a sin to be beautiful?

Of course not. Who would think otherwise.

Do we have to hide our women behind Amish & period costumes?

What does adorning & modern dress have to do with beauty? When one is beautiful then one is... well... beautiful. The second part of the question is not asking about whether it is a sin to be beautiful. It is asking why it would be wrong to adorn oneself in modern fashion.

There are no clear cut answers here but I see that the word tells us that "Favour [is] deceitful, and beauty [is] vain: [but] a woman [that] feareth the LORD, she shall be praised. Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates."

The search for fulfillment in an outward beauty is fruitless and an end is never found to it's constant desires. The word tells us that God will give us the desires of our hearts. But who will let Him? Who will let him give us a new set of desires that can actually be fulfilled and which lead to a fulfilled life?

The word also says...

1Pe 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, [be] in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
1Pe 3:2 While they behold your chaste conversation [coupled] with fear.
1Pe 3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward [adorning] of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
1Pe 3:4 But [let it be] the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, [even the ornament] of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
1Pe 3:5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:

I don't believe that the purpose of these scriptures was to call it a sin to do this or that but to let us know that defining our "beauty" by our adornments is corruptible and will always leave you short of what one had hoped to feel while the adornment of that beautiful spirit that a woman of God exudes is incorruptible and in the sight of God (and man I believe) of great price.

Now... is this to say that shiny buttons & colors outside of black & white are wrong? Of course not. But the word offers us sage and wonderful instruction as to our priorities and our definitions of what beauty is that would go a long way in curing some of the ills of our society whose definition of beauty has the youngest of our lovely females involving themselves in the endless and fruitless journey of finally achieving "beauty" while beauty was inside them the whole time.

Men miss the wisdom & the beauty of Gods word when they take scriptures as I have stated above and use them to make hard & fast rules as to the wearing of this or that being wrong. But many people also miss the power of the word to finally bring happiness & peace into their lives when they believe what God said and walk in a way that is higher, wiser, more fulfilling and attainable rather than the way that appeals to our base human instincts, never fulfills and can never be attained for more than very short periods of time.

There are other questions that you posed but due to the length of my response to your first point I will defer for the moment.

[ManOfWord]

NO, I do not think beauty is a sin.........................ugliness might be, though!!!

[Raven]

Beauty is not a sin but if it was I am surrounded by iniquity! My two granddaughters:
Raven