Re: Is this ever a good prayer...is it godly love?
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Originally Posted by Timmy
What's the difference? Pray however you want!
Is God dumb? Will he actually afflict someone with insomnia, just because someone prayed for it? If I pray that someone will break out in hives till they get saved, will God obey me?
LOL!!! Good point, Timmy. God isn't going to comply with erroneous requests, is He?
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Re: Is this ever a good prayer...is it godly love?
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Originally Posted by Timmy
What's the difference? Pray however you want!
Is God dumb? Will he actually afflict someone with insomnia, just because someone prayed for it? If I pray that someone will break out in hives till they get saved, will God obey me?
Re: Is this ever a good prayer...is it godly love?
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Originally Posted by Barb
This question has been burning on my mind for a couple of days...
Is it ever a good thing to pray for the unsaved or backslidden, "Lord, whatever it takes...whatever you have to do, save 'em?!"
When I was a backslider, people wouold come to me and say that they were praying that God would not let me sleep until I came back to the Lord. Having heard this spoke before about other folks, I never took it any other way than that folks cared.
However, not long ago I heard my former SS teacher and mentor say that this is NOT love, and should never be prayed, much less told to the individual in need of salvation.
So what do you think...is it a sign of love or not?! Is there any biblical precedent for praying in this manner?!
Sometimes the person praying for "God to do whatever it takes" is simply doing what they have been taught by their pastor to do. Our oldest son would be in the church, then back out again. This went on for 30 years and our pastor told us to pray for God to "lean on them" and "do whatever it takes" to save them. He also told another couple the same thing who had a girl who was our son's age (35). Both of us couples did this and both children prayed back through and were both dead within 30 days of each other due to hearts weakened by the drug use. Both families are dealing with these prayers. Sometimes we question whether or not this was God or just what was about to happen anyway. It's been almost 4 years now and we often wonder if they were saved or not.
Re: Is this ever a good prayer...is it godly love?
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Originally Posted by Ron
Does God kill someone when they die in a car accident? Heart Attack? Cancer?
We all are going to die somehow, sometime.
Guess I missed the point, then. You said he prayed, said he died, said it wasn't a coincidence. Did God cause the accident, in response to the prayer, or not?
Or are you just messin' with us?
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Re: Is this ever a good prayer...is it godly love?
God didn't kill any of those people, the devil is the thief who only comes to steal, kill and destroy. (Jn 10:10)
God cannot answer any prayer that is not in line with His word. Any prayer not in line with the word, will open the door to the devil to answer it.
If you really want to gain some Biblical insight into this subject, get Charles Capps' book "How to Avoid Tragedy, and Live a Better Life".
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Re: Is this ever a good prayer...is it godly love?
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Originally Posted by Ronzo
Preach it Rico. Preach it.
I think people who pray trouble into folks lives need a good swift kick of the same trouble they're praying about... maybe it'll knock some sense into them. (TIC)
Seriously... what's wrong with "God... show them just how much you love them! Woo them with your love"? Why do we have to ask him to do bad things to them? That's just dumb...
I know a preacher who says his mom used to pray that bad stuff on him. "God if he ever backslides, break his leg, God! Hurt him!"
That's stupid.
I'm in serious agreement with you here Ronzo. Yes, I said "agreement"
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