Today's Obituary

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Sam

I came to Cincinnati in June 1957 from ABI to attend the church pastored by Frank Curts and to hear him teach. I wound up staying here and now I've been married 49 years, have 5 children, and 13 grandchildren.

I attended Bro. Curt's church from 1957 until some time in 1963 or 1964 when we started going to the local ALJC church. Eld. Joe David Sizemore was the pastor (had been since 1951) and the church had started as a split from Bro. Curts' assembly in 1945.

Bro. Curts was the District Supt. of the UPC Ohio District while I was going to his church. I taught Sunday School there and also preached for Bro. Curts several times. Bro. and Sis. Norman Paslay were assistant pastors.

In 1968 or so, there was some kind of falling out between Bro. Curts and Bro. and Sis. Paslay and Bro. Curts brought in Leroy Buller as asst. pastor. Bro. and Sis Paslay left and started Calvary Pentecostal Church which is now pastored by their son and is about 2 miles from my house. The church pastored by Bro. Curts passed on to Bro. Buller when he died and is now pastored by Bro. Urshan. I've never been to that assembly but have been to the church pastored by the Paslays several times.

Did you know Eugene Price and his first wife?

They went to Bro Curts church back in the 60's?

His first wife passed away in Mid 60's.

Bro Price split off from Curts as well in 1968.

I am good friends with William Price who now pastor's the church in Western Hills, just outside Cincinnati.

Did you meet my father John Eckstadt? He would have first went to Bro. Curts church in 1963 0r 64.

I finally want to share this as well.

My father went back to Cincinnati in late 1976.

We moved and he started a Church with some folks from Frank Curts church.

He is buried some 5 or so graves away from Bro Curts.

When my mom went to the Cemetary they told her that part of the graveyard was full.

The next day they called and told us they had a double plot that was marked for a sprinkler that had never been installed.

When we did the internment service.

We found Bro. Curts grave just to the right of my Fathers resting place.

Upon the sound of the Trumpet they will rise shoulder to shoulder....

Nathan Eckstadt

[Sam]

Today I went to Eld. Shafer's funeral service. There were a lot of people there, many of whom I did not know. His three oldest children (by his first marriage) are first cousins of my wife. Some of them I had not seen in some time. Bro. W.I. Smith, pastor of Apostolic Pentecostal Lighthouse (UPC) in Bellevue, KY was in charge of the service and did a good job. We left Bro. Shafer's outer shell of a body at an old cemetary here in Cincinnati where it will await the first resurrection.

[Sam]

Did you know Eugene Price and his first wife?
No, my wife and I started going to the ALJC church (pastored by Joe David Sizemore) in 1963 or 1964. Gene Price was going there andhad recently married. His first wife, Daisy, was daughter to Bro. Wheeler, who was an elder in the ALJC church.

They went to Bro Curts church back in the 60's?
Actually, there was a group who left Bro. Curts' church in 1945. Gene Price was part of that group. That split divided families. Gene Price went with the split but his sisters did not. One of the original elders in the new/split church went by himself with his children while his wife remained with the church pastored by Bro. Curts.

His first wife passed away in Mid 60's.
Like I said, when we started going to the ALJC church in 1963 or 1964 his wife had not been dead long and he had remarried.

Bro Price split off from Curts as well in 1968.
Bro. Price was part of the group who left Bro. Curts in 1945. He later started a church called The Western Hills Apostolic Church. I'm not sure when that was. Bro. Price was in the UPC. The church name was later changed to Abundant Life Ministries. His sons, Jonathan and William were assistants to him.

I am good friends with William Price who now pastor's the church in Western Hills, just outside Cincinnati.
I drove past the street that church is on today. It's on Boomer Road. I haven't been there for many years. We did have an ALJC youth rally there once some time in the nineteen seventies. It may have been UPC at that time, I don't know. I think it is part of Global Network now, at least it was at one time. I haven't seen William since he was a little kid called Billy. I did sit with his younger brother Jonathan and with Bro. and Sis Price at Sis. Paslay's funeral.At that time Jonathan spoke about people from the Vineyard church visiting them and working with them in outreach.

Did you meet my father John Eckstadt? He would have first went to Bro. Curts church in 1963 0r 64.
I don't remember your dad. We left that church some time around that time,

I finally want to share this as well.

My father went back to Cincinnati in late 1976.

We moved and he started a Church with some folks from Frank Curts church.

At that time we were going to Bro. Sizemore's church. It was called Carthage Apostolic. Bro. Paslay had split off Bro. Curts' church in 1968 (I think it was 1968). Bro. Sizemore was fellowshipping Bro. Paslay and I was afraid Bro. Sizemore might be considering joining the UPC.

I don't remember hearing about another church being started in the Cincinnati area at that time. Was it a UPC church? Where was it? What happened to it?

He is buried some 5 or so graves away from Bro Curts.
I'm not sure where Bro. Curts is buried. I did not go to the funeral. Is he buried in Spring Grove Cemetary?

When my mom went to the Cemetary they told her that part of the graveyard was full.

The next day they called and told us they had a double plot that was marked for a sprinkler that had never been installed.

When we did the internment service.

We found Bro. Curts grave just to the right of my Fathers resting place.

Upon the sound of the Trumpet they will rise shoulder to shoulder....


That will be neat. Today I went to Bro. Shafer's funeral at an old cemetary on Baltimore Ave. and while we were standing around his casket for the graveside service I thought about my wife's grandparents and others buried there and thought, "If the rapture happened right now, would this place look like a plowed field?"

Originally Posted by Sam

I came to Cincinnati in June 1957 from ABI to attend the church pastored by Frank Curts and to hear him teach. I wound up staying here and now I've been married 49 years, have 5 children, and 13 grandchildren.

I attended Bro. Curt's church from 1957 until some time in 1963 or 1964 when we started going to the local ALJC church. Eld. Joe David Sizemore was the pastor (had been since 1951) and the church had started as a split from Bro. Curts' assembly in 1945.

Bro. Curts was the District Supt. of the UPC Ohio District while I was going to his church. I taught Sunday School there and also preached for Bro. Curts several times. Bro. and Sis. Norman Paslay were assistant pastors.

In 1968 or so, there was some kind of falling out between Bro. Curts and Bro. and Sis. Paslay and Bro. Curts brought in Leroy Buller as asst. pastor. Bro. and Sis Paslay left and started Calvary Pentecostal Church which is now pastored by their son and is about 2 miles from my house. The church pastored by Bro. Curts passed on to Bro. Buller when he died and is now pastored by Bro. Urshan. I've never been to that assembly but have been to the church pastored by the Paslays several times.

Sam (and all others who asked...) In between Bullers and Urshan...I psatored that church for two years.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by DJElkins

Sam (and all others who asked...) In between Bullers and Urshan...I psatored that church for two years.

I've never been to that church on Montgomery Road but I know people there from Bro. Curt's church. I was in St. Paul, MN when Bro. Buller was there. He was an upper classman. When I've seen him locally here at meetings he has spoken to me. I think it's neat that in the website for that church there is nothing negative said about Bro. and Sis. Paslay leaving and starting another church.

Originally Posted by Sam

I've never been to that church on Montgomery Road but I know people there from Bro. Curt's church. I was in St. Paul, MN when Bro. Buller was there. He was an upper classman. When I've seen him locally here at meetings he has spoken to me. I think it's neat that in the website for that church there is nothing negative said about Bro. and Sis. Paslay leaving and starting another church.

There is also no mention of me pastoring there either Sam, I would be more than happy to give you my explanation for why the Paslay's leaving is not mentioned on the website if you would like to PM me.

As for NRP II...I have nothing but high praise for him! When we were in a critical situation there in Cincy, he came through with flying colors for us...not once, but TWICE.

[retsambeW]

Originally Posted by Sam

Today I went to Eld. Shafer's funeral service. There were a lot of people there, many of whom I did not know. His three oldest children (by his first marriage) are first cousins of my wife. Some of them I had not seen in some time. Bro. W.I. Smith, pastor of Apostolic Pentecostal Lighthouse (UPC) in Bellevue, KY was in charge of the service and did a good job. We left Bro. Shafer's outer shell of a body at an old cemetary here in Cincinnati where it will await the first resurrection.

I have preached for Bro. Smith when he was still in Dayton, KY. He has moved the church now from Dayton, KY to Bellevue, KY, across the river from your fair city. When we remodeled the Dale church, Bro. Smith gave an offering to us for the project. He has been a good friend the last several years. I am glad he maintained his friendship with Elder Shafer, and was there when the family needed him.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Sam

Did you know Eugene Price and his first wife?
No, my wife and I started going to the ALJC church (pastored by Joe David Sizemore) in 1963 or 1964. Gene Price was going there andhad recently married. His first wife, Daisy, was daughter to Bro. Wheeler, who was an elder in the ALJC church.

They went to Bro Curts church back in the 60's?
Actually, there was a group who left Bro. Curts' church in 1945. Gene Price was part of that group. That split divided families. Gene Price went with the split but his sisters did not. One of the original elders in the new/split church went by himself with his children while his wife remained with the church pastored by Bro. Curts.

His first wife passed away in Mid 60's.
Like I said, when we started going to the ALJC church in 1963 or 1964 his wife had not been dead long and he had remarried.

Bro Price split off from Curts as well in 1968.
Bro. Price was part of the group who left Bro. Curts in 1945. He later started a church called The Western Hills Apostolic Church. I'm not sure when that was. Bro. Price was in the UPC. The church name was later changed to Abundant Life Ministries. His sons, Jonathan and William were assistants to him.

I am good friends with William Price who now pastor's the church in Western Hills, just outside Cincinnati.
I drove past the street that church is on today. It's on Boomer Road. I haven't been there for many years. We did have an ALJC youth rally there once some time in the nineteen seventies. It may have been UPC at that time, I don't know. I think it is part of Global Network now, at least it was at one time. I haven't seen William since he was a little kid called Billy. I did sit with his younger brother Jonathan and with Bro. and Sis Price at Sis. Paslay's funeral.At that time Jonathan spoke about people from the Vineyard church visiting them and working with them in outreach.

Did you meet my father John Eckstadt? He would have first went to Bro. Curts church in 1963 0r 64.
I don't remember your dad. We left that church some time around that time,

I finally want to share this as well.

My father went back to Cincinnati in late 1976.

We moved and he started a Church with some folks from Frank Curts church.

At that time we were going to Bro. Sizemore's church. It was called Carthage Apostolic. Bro. Paslay had split off Bro. Curts' church in 1968 (I think it was 1968). Bro. Sizemore was fellowshipping Bro. Paslay and I was afraid Bro. Sizemore might be considering joining the UPC.

I don't remember hearing about another church being started in the Cincinnati area at that time. Was it a UPC church? Where was it? What happened to it?

He is buried some 5 or so graves away from Bro Curts.
I'm not sure where Bro. Curts is buried. I did not go to the funeral. Is he buried in Spring Grove Cemetary?

When my mom went to the Cemetary they told her that part of the graveyard was full.

The next day they called and told us they had a double plot that was marked for a sprinkler that had never been installed.

When we did the internment service.

We found Bro. Curts grave just to the right of my Fathers resting place.

Upon the sound of the Trumpet they will rise shoulder to shoulder....


That will be neat. Today I went to Bro. Shafer's funeral at an old cemetary on Baltimore Ave. and while we were standing around his casket for the graveside service I thought about my wife's grandparents and others buried there and thought, "If the rapture happened right now, would this place look like a plowed field?"

I knew I may have had the Gene Price story off by a few years.

We started a church in 1976 with a family named Durham. It was Buzzy and DOis Durham with their children Danny and Donna.

I know you must know Donna Durham. I know around 1977 she started goinf to Bro Sizemore's church.

Actually I went to the church as well when the Lawrance Family sang at the church in 1978.

My dad's church was in High Point Ohio which is near Cincinnati.

When he passed away at 43 in 1978 from kidney disease.

My family 3 son's one daughter and my Mom.

Moved to Milwaukee where a good friend of my father's Frank Tamel has a church.

He is retired but still preaching at 82.

Billy Price is the pastor and I think he is affiliated with Global.

Gene Price was UPCI until he passed away some years ago.

Have you ever heard my uncle.

John Laun preach?

One of his daughters is married to Danny Durham.

Thanks for all the neat info on Gene Price.

Jonathan is a great guy as well.

Sis Price there is non sweeter than her....

I believe my Dad and Bro Curts are buried at Arlington Memorial Gardens.

They are buried in the Christian Garden area's set aside for ministers.

Just a few graves from each other.

Here is the link to the website.

http://www.arlingtonmemorialgardens....5/Default.aspx

If you visit the site.

You can call ahead and ask for the plots.

Nathan Eckstadt

[Sam]

Originally Posted by DJElkins

There is also no mention of me pastoring there either I can assure you that there is a very strong disdain on Montgomery Rd for those on Kenn Road. I worked diligently to overcome that, but ultimately that played a very large role in my being ousted TWICE. When I first went to Cincy, I had no idea of the history there. As I spent the four+ years there, I came across many documents that surprised me immensely as to what actually transpired.

My wife and I had left Bro. Curts' church in 1963 or 1964 and so we were spared the battles and the split that happened a few years later. We really don't know what happened and I think we are better off not knowing. That way we can feel good about those who left and those who stayed.

During the time of turmoil at the Montgomery Road church, some folks started coming to Bro. Sizemore's church. Since the church pastored by Bro. Sizemore was a split from Bro. Curts' church in 1945, maybe there was some kind of a kindred spirit between those who left in 1945 and those who left in 1968.

What little I have heard about Cincinnati is that when Bro. Curts came here in 1925 he started with 12 or 13 people and his new church was a split off another OP group here in Cincinnati. I don't really know who brought the Jesus' name message to the Cincinnati area and when it came. My father-in-law who died in 2000 at the age of 79 had mentioned childhood memories of baptisms in the Ohio River. Perhaps because Bro. Curts started with a split group, he may have "reaped" that split in 1945 when some folks left him and started a church called The Full Gospel Church, When I came here in 1957 that group was disdainfully spoken of as "the church on the hill" because they were located on Vine Street hill. Shortly after I came here the "Church on the Hill" also known as the Full Gospel Church, built a new church in the Carthage area of Cincinnati and changed their name to the Carthage Apostolic Church. Their pastor was Bro. Joe David Sizemore from January 1951 until his death in January 2001. Then Bro. Curts' church had that other split in 1968 when the Paslays and some people left. There was fellowship between the Paslays' church and Bro. Sizemore's church. The Paslays pastored in a rented church on Blue Ash Road and then bought the building on Kemper Road where they remained until they built the place on Kenn Road. By the way, I live just a couple of miles from the Kenn Road church but have only been there once and that was for a funeral for my wife's cousin. My wife's mother was going to Bro. Paslay's church when she died in 1997 so folks from that church came to our house and fixed and brought food and Bro. Paslay was in charge of the funeral. Bro. Sizemore's church had a split a few years ago (don't remember when) and a group left and formed the Greater Apostolic Church in Loveland. Since then another young man left and had a church in Fairfield, OH (only a few miles from where I live) but that is no longer in existence. The Carthage Apostolic Church built a new building and is now the Covenant Apostolic Church. After Bro. Sizemore's death in 2001, Bro. Shelly Hendricks became pastor and not it is listed as a UPC church. Another young man who left Covenant Apostolic started a new church about three and one half years ago in a meeting room at a local motel in Sharonville. He started with about a dozen people and now has grown to about 50. My wife and I plan on visiting that assembly this coming Sunday. They meet in LaQuinta motel off Sharon Road at I75 and they are called Christ's Community. That's about all I know about the UPC here in the Cincinnati area. I just read in another post on this thread that Bro. Eckstadt's dad started a church here in late 1976 but I don't ever remember hearing about it.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by retsambeW

I have preached for Bro. Smith when he was still in Dayton, KY. He has moved the church now from Dayton, KY to Bellevue, KY, across the river from your fair city. When we remodeled the Dale church, Bro. Smith gave an offering to us for the project. He has been a good friend the last several years. I am glad he maintained his friendship with Elder Shafer, and was there when the family needed him.

Bro. Shafer was going to the church in Bellevue, KY when he could for the last part of his life. I'm not sure how long. He was pastoring a church in the eastern part of Cincinnati called Riverside Church of Jesus Christ (I think that was the name) and gave that up when some folks died, moved on, or got too old. When I saw Bro. Shafer in the hospital last summer he told me that he was going to Bro. Smith's church. Today, Bro. Smith mentioned Bro. Shafer coming there and testifying and preaching. Earlier this evening I was talking to my brother-in-law who lives in Warsaw, KY. He was not able to be at the funeral. When I told him Bro. Smith preached the funeral he told me a little bit about Bro. Smith and what a great guy he is. I don't ever remember seeing him before or knowing him or hearing about him. I think maybe someone on NFCF attends his church but I may be wrong.