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05-28-2008, 03:43 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
Notice no one here appears as concerned with the implications regarding the war and this administration as they are about finding fault with the messenger. Again...Bush get's a free pass by religious conservatives. What if this is true?
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05-29-2008, 05:53 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
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Originally Posted by Grasshopper
Notice no one here appears as concerned with the implications regarding the war and this administration as they are about finding fault with the messenger. Again...Bush get's a free pass by religious conservatives. What if this is true?
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It's not about President Bush is getting a free pass by religious conservatives.
There are some Christians who are unhappy with the Bush presidency.
It's just that a book is out, in an election year, claiming to be an expose of the current President. How much credibility could anyone attach to that?
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05-29-2008, 05:53 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
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Originally Posted by Sam
It's not about President Bush is getting a free pass by religious conservatives.
There are some Christians who are unhappy with the Bush presidency.
It's just that a book is out, in an election year, claiming to be an expose of the current President. How much credibility could anyone attach to that?
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So true and he is talking about "possibly" voting for Obama. He seems bitter to me.
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05-29-2008, 10:41 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
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Originally Posted by Sam
It's not about President Bush is getting a free pass by religious conservatives.
There are some Christians who are unhappy with the Bush presidency.
It's just that a book is out, in an election year, claiming to be an expose of the current President. How much credibility could anyone attach to that?
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First this books been in the works for a while and the Administration has known about how it might be somewhat critical...of course...they didn't know how critical.
Bro...imagine with me that you're in the writer's shoes. When would you want to release your book if you knew about so much corruption? Would you really wait until after an election where a man might win who will perpetuate such policies? Imagine releasing a book a month after that man won. Bro...as a voter who wants to be informed, I'd wonder why you waited until after the election to tell us the truth about these guys. If you're going to out the crooks you owe it to the America people to out them before we have the chance of choosing them again.
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05-28-2008, 03:48 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
Nah GH, it's just the same old, same old. And it's not like anyone hasn't ever said this before. True or not his saying this now is greed alone. Money, money, money. And there is plenty of fault to be found with any administration. Same results, different reasons.
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05-28-2008, 03:51 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
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Originally Posted by cneasttx
Nah GH, it's just the same old, same old. And it's not like anyone hasn't ever said this before. True or not his saying this now is greed alone. Money, money, money. And there is plenty of fault to be found with any administration. Same results, different reasons.
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So even if this guy's telling the truth the Bush Administration should get a free pass on this? C'mon...this is far more corrupt than President Clinton trying to cover up an affair.
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05-28-2008, 03:54 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
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Originally Posted by Grasshopper
So even if this guy's telling the truth the Bush Administration get a free pass on this? C'mon...this is far more corrupt than President Clinton trying to cover up an affair.
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Nope, not what I am saying at all. This book will probably not change anyone's mind about the administration. And another thing is why publish this now? Who is he hoping offers him a job?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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05-28-2008, 04:03 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
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Originally Posted by cneasttx
Nope, not what I am saying at all. This book will probably not change anyone's mind about the administration. And another thing is why publish this now? Who is he hoping offers him a job?
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I think it has more to do with revealing the facts behind the war so that the people have more information in the coming election. Do we essentially keep the current machine and course of action or do we change direction?
Of course, the press secretary was given warm words and praise when leaving and all was nice and friendly. Now this guy is going to be painted as disgruntled. It's like when a controlling pastor looses control of a saint who decides to speak up about something not right...suddenly that saint is just "not himself".
Republicans will vote Republican regardless of the deception and lies of the Bush Administration...and those voting Democratic already know the war was based on lies and fabrications. This will only effect undecideds and independents.
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05-28-2008, 07:01 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
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Originally Posted by Grasshopper
I think it has more to do with revealing the facts behind the war so that the people have more information in the coming election. Do we essentially keep the current machine and course of action or do we change direction?
Of course, the press secretary was given warm words and praise when leaving and all was nice and friendly. Now this guy is going to be painted as disgruntled. It's like when a controlling pastor looses control of a saint who decides to speak up about something not right...suddenly that saint is just "not himself".
Republicans will vote Republican regardless of the deception and lies of the Bush Administration...and those voting Democratic already know the war was based on lies and fabrications. This will only effect undecideds and independents.
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The media has so brainwashed the public that we all believe this now??? Truth no longer has any weigh against the third column.
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05-28-2008, 07:04 PM
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Re: Ex-Bush Spokesman: Propaganda Used to Push War
Noooo..republicans ( myself anyway ) will vote republican because thats the way we believe. You know , some here feel UPC is not the way to go, and some do.....I feel the conservative way is the way I prefer to go..All of your arguments are plausable at best....easily argued from both sides with neither side having the ability to win....I could disprove most of what you spew on here, and you may could do the same with me..but when it comes down to us having no more post and rebuttles it simply comes down to what we (individually) believe we want for government...its our opinion...nothing more, nothing less......Bush has done no worse job than carter, clinton or anyone else for that matter. Bush didn't ask for this, he responded in a manner he felt best....
its funny we being full of the Holy Ghost and living for God will be first to proclaim we are not perfect yet we expect a man with more pressure than we will ever be faced with to be perfect.
BTW...they just announced that Scott admitted his editor re wrote much of the book he released...imagine that
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