Televangelist's Family Prosper's From Ministry

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Jason

Ridiculous is living in a 6 million dollar home, and living a life of luxury, while the people under you are hurting. Ridiculous is having the ability to do so much more for others, but instead you live the easy life. Give me a break, Copeland needs to re-read Jeremiah.

Well said. No preacher ever needs to live in a 6 million dollar home. period.

At best, that is a lack of wisdom and good judgment... and at worst, it's just shameful greed.

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by Jason

Ridiculous is living in a 6 million dollar home, and living a life of luxury, while the people under you are hurting. Ridiculous is having the ability to do so much more for others, but instead you live the easy life. Give me a break, Copeland needs to re-read Jeremiah.

We really have no way of knowing how much the Copelands do for others, do we? Just because you know one situation doesn't mean that they don't help thousands of others. There are always two sides to every story.

I'm not a huge fan of the Copeland's, but I can't judge them and their finances. That's between them and God. It does seem that He has abundantly blessed them, and there's nothing wrong with men of God prospering if they are also givers.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Brother, it takes money to do the work of the kingdom, the Copeland's raise more money in a year than most churches do in a lifetime. They invest in what they believe is the work of the kingdom. I am not particularly a fan of the Copeland's, but the idea that a para-church organization should not generate enormous amounts of money and pay the leaders well is ridiculous.

I agree...

[Sandra]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Brother, it takes money to do the work of the kingdom, the Copeland's raise more money in a year than most churches do in a lifetime. They invest in what they believe is the work of the kingdom. I am not particularly a fan of the Copeland's, but the idea that a para-church organization should not generate enormous amounts of money and pay the leaders well is ridiculous.

I know that many ministries all over the country pay tithes to Kenneth Copeland, they consider him their pastor.
I know of one pastor who gave him 700,000.00 when he turned 70.

[riverslivnwtr]

Originally Posted by Brother Price

But, the Church is not a corporation. It is the church, period. All that money is wasted!

Wasted Where???

you wanted that money didn't you?? tell the truth I won't tell ..

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by crakjak

The salaries and monies paid are not at all out of line with the size of the organization or compensation paid to executives of a comparable size corporation. Matter of fact, they are very conservation in comparison.

Did you read the whole article? The issue is not about salaries, it's more about WHO gets the salaries and what other financial perks they get

[Jason B]

I live in Boyd, about 10 miles from this compound. It is ridiculous, they have armed gaurds on church property at all times.

I have a man who works for me who attends that church, (he moved from Virginia just to attend the Copeland church). I asked him about the armed gaurds, he said that when they take up the offering, they also have armed gaurds who escort the ushers.

This same man also lived in someoneone's back yard for 6 months while all of his tithe and offering went to people living the high life. Did they help him? Oh yeah, they rented him and his family a motel room for 2 weeks, but that was it.

Amazingly, He still goes there, and believes that those people are the most righteous of all christians.

[CC1]

I wonder if there is a single major national ministry that takes in millions where the leaders have not succumbed to the lure of the money in the sense that they justify a huge income and lifestyle based on comparing the offering totals to a secular corporate entity's income.

It would be nice to see one of these outfits have leaders who settle for just a very nice house and upper middle class lifestyle vs mansions, jets, etc.

I rememer reading where Richard Roberts used the ministries jet for his daughter to take her girlfriends on a graduation trip or something like that to the Bahammas or somewhere.

I don't begrudge a minister a decent lifestyle but living extravagently off of offerings people give for God's work is ridiculous no matter what Sandra and the prosperity preachers say.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by CC1

I wonder if there is a single major national ministry that takes in millions where the leaders have not succumbed to the lure of the money in the sense that they justify a huge income and lifestyle based on comparing the offering totals to a secular corporate entity's income.

It would be nice to see one of these outfits have leaders who settle for just a very nice house and upper middle class lifestyle vs mansions, jets, etc.

I rememer reading where Richard Roberts used the ministries jet for his daughter to take her girlfriends on a graduation trip or something like that to the Bahammas or somewhere.

I don't begrudge a minister a decent lifestyle but living extravagently off of offerings people give for God's work is ridiculous no matter what Sandra and the prosperity preachers say.

CC1, As unpopular as it is to ask, we should be discovering why it is that many Charismatic and Pentecostal Ministries are against full disclosure of church finances. Why is this problem not tracking in Lutheran and Baptist Ministries who willingly submit and are members of accountability organizations?

On a much smaller scale than the Televangelists, why are some of our churches anti-financial statements when it comes to "tithing accounts"?

These questions will be resolved eventually by a government requirement... what a shame.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

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On a much smaller scale than the Televangelists, why are some of our churches anti-financial statements when it comes to "tithing accounts"?
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I know a man who was disfellowshipped from a local ALJC church because he wanted to know "where the money went."

When he asked, he was disfellowshipped, and then the lawyers said that since he wasn't a member they did not have to furnish financial disclosure.

From what I understand, he won his case in court but I haven't seen him in a while to talk about it so I don't know how it turned out.