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Old 07-31-2008, 05:56 PM
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I do need to make a comment here. When I go home (to my home state, I mean), My Grandmother insists I go to church with her. I would never want to break her heart so I go, because the church is much more Con than I consider myself, I make adjustments to my wardrobe in order to "fit in". This is more about making my grandmother comfortable than about me, I would hate for her to be bombarded with questions about her granddaughter on the highway to hell.
So I do make a few changes, and I would never intentionally offend someone. But if they saw me on the street I wouldn't run away
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No to everything listed but yes to one important item NOT listed. That is, I get very agitated when I hear a conservative (usually always a UC) make a statement like "there will be no bobbed haired women in heaven" or something like minded.
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That one bugs me too.

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No. I'm puzzled sometimes, but not angry or indignant. And usually just accept it as their way, their belief, life goes on.



They *would* kind of stand out... But I can't imagine just what they're wearing would be distracting or irritating.



Absolutely not, never.



I just live my life. I don't flaunt my liberties, but I won't wear a dress unless I really have some strange desire to (and I don't OWN any skirts or dresses anymore..it'd be quite an occasion for me to wear one).


I'm here. I dress modestly. I do wear jewelry, sometimes. And makeup, but most don't really notice I'm wearing it even if they're looking for it.
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No to everything listed but yes to one important item NOT listed. That is, I get very agitated when I hear a conservative (usually always a UC) make a statement like "there will be no bobbed haired women in heaven" or something like minded.
Their resources say that komao means "to let the hair grow". If that's how they read it, how can you expect anything less?
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I do need to make a comment here. When I go home (to my home state, I mean), My Grandmother insists I go to church with her. I would never want to break her heart so I go, because the church is much more Con than I consider myself, I make adjustments to my wardrobe in order to "fit in". This is more about making my grandmother comfortable than about me, I would hate for her to be bombarded with questions about her granddaughter on the highway to hell.
So I do make a few changes, and I would never intentionally offend someone. But if they saw me on the street I wouldn't run away
Pro,

This is what I also do. I dress so as not to offend where I am, but sometimes I feel hypocritical, especially if they know I really don't dress that way.

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Their resources say that komao means "to let the hair grow". If that's how they read it, how can you expect anything less?
I always shoot back that if it takes that much minutia and attention to detail and research of every single bible verse (filtered through a 1950's lens of course), then NO ONE is going to heaven. NO ONE can follow the law to the degree required to achieve salvation.
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This is what I also do. I dress so as not to offend where I am, but sometimes I feel hypocritical, especially if they know I really don't dress that way.

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I am sure that some would feel that way, I however don't. I try to take "inquiring minds" off of my clothes by dressing, "the part". I don't ever show up anywhere and tell people I dress like that all the time, and if I were asked about it, I would happily give my reasons.

We went to GC a couple of years ago and I put my hair up and wore a dress because I didn't want to get taken to the altar by people who thought that I was a newbie!
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I always shoot back that if it takes that much minutia and attention to detail and research of every single bible verse (filtered through a 1950's lens of course), then NO ONE is going to heaven. NO ONE can follow the law to the degree required to achieve salvation.
Well, you don't have to follow the law. Just the new Testament.
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Yes, this is about standards.... you can leave if you have had your fill.

I have observed some Liberals are very uncomfortable with Christians (or even non-Christians for that matter) who are more conservaitve than they are themselves.

As a Liberal:

1. Do you feel anger or a rightous indignation when around those with a more conservative lifestyle?

2. Do you feel extremely distracted or irritated when a women in a jean skirt and frizzy hair perm, or a man in a white shirt and tie worships God with you at church?

3. Do you feel it is your duty to tell other other Christians they are wrong and you are right in lifestyle?

4. Are you content to flaunt your liberties in Christ as what is right or do you feel compelled to inform them they are in bondage to legalism and the Law of Moses?

Disclaimer: I dress modestly although I wear jewelry and makeup but never with the attitude of superiority because of my choices.

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Bless their little hearts!

1. No. Under normal circumstances no problem. When they make Christianity appear foolish by swimming in a skirt, etc then I am sad, embarressed, dismayed, disgruntled, etc.

2. Silly question about the white shirt. Not distracted or irritated by women in jean skirts with frizzy hair.

3. On a personal basis no. I do feel it is my responsbility to do so on a forum like this one. I would never approach someone personally and try to change their views on their dress code.

4. Absurdly worded question along wth lines of "have you stopped beating your wife?". I live Christian values of morality and moderation. I do not seek to offend more conservative people but I don't spend my life worrying about other peoples hyper sensitivity to a dress code and extra biblical standards that have been pounded into their heads. I know some conservative Pentecostals who are so hypersensitive to womens dress codes that they notice a lot of things and take offense at them that I don't even notice because I am not fixated on it.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

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"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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