COGIC - Baptism in Jesus Name

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

OK... Why not choose a 1-stepper Oneness church instead?
There are quite a few out there.

If I told you there were NONE IN MD, DC OR VA, would you believe me?

I believe there are two small 1-stepper congregations about 70 miles from where I live.

I spoke with one of the Pastors over the phone. He's former UPCI and he seemed a li'l bitter at the UPCI to me, even though he said he wasn't. I didn't get a good feeling from talking with him so I did not pursue attending his church.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

(of course, I have to ask....)

The fact that COGIC teaches the Trinity instead of Oneness is not an issue in your mind?

To me or to 1399??

Only thing that could be considered trinity doctrine by alot of the UPC peoples is just the baptism formula...having the name of Jesus there seals the deal.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

To me or to 1399??

Only thing that could be considered trinity doctrine by alot of the UPC peoples is just the baptism formula...having the name of Jesus there seals the deal.

No, COGIC view of God is trinitarian, a view that I do not subscribe to.

[nahkoe]

Originally Posted by 1399

No, COGIC view of God is trinitarian, a view that I do not subscribe to.

The COGIC I belonged to never mentioned the trinity (never did witness a baptism though). Unlike the oneness churches I've gone to, they don't seem to be too worried about teaching that they're right and everyone else is wrong. It was really like that in all the trinitarian churches I attended. It was in the statement of belief, but otherwise nothing was really mentioned that I'd have a problem with today.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by 1399

No, COGIC view of God is trinitarian, a view that I do not subscribe to.

I grew up with some of them and these particular people did not have a trinitarian view nor a tritheistic view...they were oneness all but for the formula for baptism.

[Steve Epley]

Why don't y'all just join the closest Baptist-Methodist-Catholic church close by since it's makes no difference in what folks believe or just stay home and watch BH blow folks down or buy some reruns of the BAM guy? This is pathetic to say the least. Everybody baptizes in Jesus Name even the Pope_-Moon-Rev. Right.

[SDG]

COGIC is Water and Spirit ... is it not ... although it's Trinnie in it's view of the Godhead?

[the Bishop]

I will go with Bro. Epley on this one. any person who does not have the revelation of Jesus Christ, will be fearful to put their Trust in the Only Name under Heaven Given among men whereby we must be Saved. and will seek to include Heathen formulas to compensate for their own lack of Faith.

If the Name of God Almighty that He bestowed upon that Perfect Sacrifice is not sufficient to Remit your Sins and clean you up in preperation for the Spirit of God to enter your Temple, all the titles in this world will do you no good.

1 John 5:20-21

20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.
KJV

[theoldpaths]

Originally Posted by 1399

I'm about to join this COGIC near where I own a home in Baltimore.

I'm not living there right now, but that's another story.

Anyway, I've attended several services there and have enjoyed them. I spoke with the Pastor and he told me that he baptized folks, "in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost in Jesus Name" so as to be agreement with all scriptures concerning baptism.


I don't see this as compromising the truth of God's Word.

What do you all think?

I think it is confusion. I think someone doesn't have a clue which one to use so they are trying to cover their tracks using both.

There is just so much evidence for baptism in the name of Jesus Christ.

If someone can't see that and claims to be a God-called, God-annointed minister of the Almighty but can't even make up his mind how to baptize someone, then I would definitely wonder. Just what did they have to do to prove themselves to qualify as a Pastor? How much research and study have they done on doctrines that include salvation?

The Holy Ghost leads one into all truth and the word of God is spiritually discerned and the carnal mind is not subject to it. Those who are not born again of the water and Spirit or have "another spirit" just get all messed up and into trouble.

Who was the great commission to? His disciples - those closer to him than any preacher today. And how did they interpret the great commission and go about obeying it? By only baptizing in the name of Jesus. Actions speak louder than words.

If NT water baptism was NOT important at all, then why would the devil stir up the Catholics to CHANGE NT water baptism and deny the name?

The truth of the matter is that the Pharisees rejected John's baptism of repentance for the remission of sins which was of God and went about setting up their own righteousness and where did it lead them? They crucified Christ.

Similarily, the Catholics have admitted in writing to changing NT water baptism and they have gone about setting up their own righteousness and where has it lead them? To persecuting and executing and stealing property of the Apostolics - essentially trying to crucify His body on earth.

"The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Ghost by the Catholic Church in the second century." - Britanica Encyclopedia. 11th Ed., Vol.3, pp.365, 366; Also The change, The Catholic Encyclopedia, Vol.2, pp.263

Romans 1:25 - Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Notice that those who changed the truth of God into a lie, worship and serve the creature more than the creator - but notice they still worship and serve the creator

Matthew 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

I pray that the Lord will lead you and guide you to the church that He wants you to go to, in Jesus name.

God bless.

[Steve Epley]

The Church of God In Christ is Trinitarian in it's denominational doctrinal creed. If a COGIC baptizes in Jesus Name then why are they in the COGIC that is the question?

Trinitarianism is a Roman doctrine all who believe it are the daughters of the Mother of Harlot church.