California Conference Report

[StMark]

Originally Posted by Threads

Interesting. Any reports on "the other conference" going onin FRESNO?

I went tonight! enjoyed seeing and talking to several people I hadn't seen in years!

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by sam

y'all know what a narrow minded, hard-nosed, ultra-con that mow is, so just don't pay him no mind now, y'hear?

lol!

[Light]

Originally Posted by Sherri

I'm totally fine with her attending church there. I'm glad it's a powerful Spirit filled place and everyone that I met there is totally sold out to God. Ashley knows what she believes and I'm not worried about her. I loved this church!!

If they are totally sold out for God, why don't they obey the bible. Now I may be old fashioned but if I am sold on something it means I go all the way with what I am sold on. They refuse to believe Jesus is the Father. Jesus said you will die in your sin's if you don't believe he is the Father. Sin can never enter there.

[SecretWarrior]

Once you've compromised everything else Doctrine isn't important.....just personality....

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Light

If they are totally sold out for God, why don't they obey the bible. ....

I assume they are obeying the Bible as they understand it, just like you or I are obeying the Bible as we understand it.

[Light]

Originally Posted by Sam

I assume they are obeying the Bible as they understand it, just like you or I are obeying the Bible as we understand it.

Sam that is a cop out. It does not take a revelation from God to understand Acts 2:38. One simply must obey it to be saved. No if, and, or buts.

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by Light

If they are totally sold out for God, why don't they obey the bible. Now I may be old fashioned but if I am sold on something it means I go all the way with what I am sold on. They refuse to believe Jesus is the Father. Jesus said you will die in your sin's if you don't believe he is the Father. Sin can never enter there.

Only if that could be carried over into your political views.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Light

Sam that is a cop out. It does not take a revelation from God to understand Acts 2:38. One simply must obey it to be saved. No if, and, or buts.

Light, you are speaking in retrospect.
You have seen things that some others have not and it seems simple to you.

Not everyone hears or sees Acts 2:28 the same.
Some sincerely see it as a three-step "formula" for salvation.
Some sincerely see it as two commands (repent and be baptized) and a promise (you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost).
Some sincerely believe that their experience as a baby when some water was applied to their head by a minister or priest fulfills one of those commands.
Some sincerely believe that when they asked Jesus to come in and forgive them and help them live for Him, that He actually did come in as the Holy Spirit.
Some sincerely believe that "in Jesus' name" means by His authority and that He authorized His disciples to use a "formula" that includes the words "Father," "Son" and "Holy Spirit."
Some sincerely believe that the condition of the person's heart is more important than the amount of water used or the exact words used in the ritual.

Some times we (and I include myself here because I've done it too) are too quick to judge a person's sincerity because they have a different understanding than we do.

[Light]

Originally Posted by Sam

Light, you are speaking in retrospect.
You have seen things that some others have not and it seems simple to you.

Not everyone hears or sees Acts 2:28 the same.
Some sincerely see it as a three-step "formula" for salvation.
Some sincerely see it as two commands (repent and be baptized) and a promise (you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost).
Some sincerely believe that their experience as a baby when some water was applied to their head by a minister or priest fulfills one of those commands.
Some sincerely believe that when they asked Jesus to come in and forgive them and help them live for Him, that He actually did come in as the Holy Spirit.
Some sincerely believe that "in Jesus' name" means by His authority and that He authorized His disciples to use a "formula" that includes the words "Father," "Son" and "Holy Spirit."
Some sincerely believe that the condition of the person's heart is more important than the amount of water used or the exact words used in the ritual.

Some times we (and I include myself here because I've done it too) are too quick to judge a person's sincerity because they have a different understanding than we do.

Sam lets cut to the chase ok? Are those that have not obeyed all of Acts 2::38 saved?

[StMark]

Here's a picture of the guest speakers that Sherri is talking about
including Mike Hayes


http://www.jubilee.org/thunder.html