I'm in the beautiful Ozarks sitting around a camp fire enjoying the start of Deer Camp 2008. I decided to take a break from my pursuit of the "big one" just to add something I read last nightm
When Lieberman was in deep trouble in 06 in the Dem primary, Lieberman begged Obama to come help him fundraise Obama went and gave a rousing speech of support for him when the other Dem's wouldn't because of his stand on Iraq.
I wouldn't be surprised if Obama feels he was stabbed in the back.
By the way wish me luck on the hunt tomorrow.
I hope you shoot a big buck that looks just like keith oberman?
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I'm in the beautiful Ozarks sitting around a camp fire enjoying the start of Deer Camp 2008. I decided to take a break from my pursuit of the "big one" just to add something I read last nightm
When Lieberman was in deep trouble in 06 in the Dem primary, Lieberman begged Obama to come help him fundraise Obama went and gave a rousing speech of support for him when the other Dem's wouldn't because of his stand on Iraq.
I wouldn't be surprised if Obama feels he was stabbed in the back.
By the way wish me luck on the hunt tomorrow.
If Lieberman wasn't even loyal to Obama, why would Obama use his influence to save his neck, again?
Lieberman is going to get whatever he has coming to him.
If Obama does not do anything to save Lieberman's Senate position, Obama is not in the wrong-- this is Senate politics. Who really respects a micro-manager?
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If Lieberman wasn't even loyal to Obama, why would Obama use his influence to save his neck, again?
Lieberman is going to get whatever he has coming to him.
If Obama does not do anything to save Lieberman's Senate position, Obama is not in the wrong-- this is Senate politics. Who really respects a micro-manager?
It looks like you BO defenders can do a mia culpa and praise BO for doing the RIGHT THING and backing up his campaign rhetoric that he wants to change politics as usual. Obama does the RIGHT THING---I give him kudos!
Obama Supports Keeping Lieberman in Democratic Caucus
By Paul Kane
Washington Post
November 12, 2008
President-elect Barack Obama has endorsed keeping Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (I-Conn.) in the Democratic caucus, suggesting to the leadership that the two sides reach a compromise in the conflict over the former Democratic vice presidential nominee's future, sources said yesterday.
In a phone conversation last week with Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.), Obama said that expelling Lieberman for his support of the Republican presidential ticket would send the wrong signal after Obama's promises to set partisanship aside, according to a Senate Democratic aide familiar with the conversation.
"President-elect Obama looks forward to working with anyone to move the country forward," Obama transition spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said yesterday. "We'd be happy to have Senator Lieberman caucus with the Democrats. We don't hold any grudges."
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Joe is not a member of their party. He's Independent. They threw him under the bus. He mde them pay. They were fortunate that he was willing to caucus with them to give them a majority. He has every right to be Independent. They needed him to get a slim majority. He needed them to have a chairmanship.
Obama is the head of the party now. Not Reid, not Pelosi. As soon as BO heard word about what the Dems thought to do to JL HE COULD'VE PICKED UP THE PHONE AND SAY (sorry, got stuck on caps---I'm typing this on my phone, too time consuming to correct it), BO could pick up the phone and simpl tell them, "Revenge is old politics, I promised America Tuesday that petty immature politcs is over."
I think keeping a campaign promise is more important than getting even.
Maybe this guy will be different.....................................
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I'm in the beautiful Ozarks sitting around a camp fire enjoying the start of Deer Camp 2008. I decided to take a break from my pursuit of the "big one" just to add something I read last nightm
When Lieberman was in deep trouble in 06 in the Dem primary, Lieberman begged Obama to come help him fundraise Obama went and gave a rousing speech of support for him when the other Dem's wouldn't because of his stand on Iraq.
I wouldn't be surprised if Obama feels he was stabbed in the back.
By the way wish me luck on the hunt tomorrow.
What about it Mike, 1399, Light?
You guys willing to criticize BO for not supporting the idea that Joe needs to pay for supporting MCCain? You all made a strong case for politics as usual and Joe paying the piper, what do you think about BO sending the message to Reid that he doesn't hold a grudge against Joe L.?
I thought before and do now, that BO forgiving Joe is the right thing and consistent with his promises to change Washington.
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Mike, 1399, Light, where AARRRREEEE YYYYYOOOOOUUUUU?
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for that awkward speech to the GOP convention in September. A blind man could have seen this coming. If you chair committee's as a Democrat it's probably not the best idea to go bad mouth the party's nominee. Looks like he gambled and lost. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081107/...rats_lieberman
Looks like somebody spoke to soon!
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Guys, just wanting a little retraction of what you were so sure about. Is Obama doing the right thing or not by forgiving Lieberman? Someone, anyone? MikeinAR, Light, 1399?
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Guys, just wanting a little retraction of what you were so sure about. Is Obama doing the right thing or not by forgiving Lieberman? Someone, anyone? MikeinAR, Light, 1399?
DB, I'm not ready to retract anything and I think you're jumping the gun a little in declaring Lieberman unscathed. I believe that he will still be allowed to caucus with the Dem's because there who he votes with on things like abortion, the evironment, and taxes.
Obama made it clear this week that Lieberman's deal will be left up to Reid and the Senate Dem Caucus. What I think is still very up in the air is whether he will be allowed to chair his committees and have a leadership role. I still think it's a very good possibility that he will be stripped of his leadership roles in the Senate. Most Dem's are wanting him to stay in the caucus, but are mum on whether he gets to stay in leadership of the party he's spent the last year criticizing.
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DB, I'm not ready to retract anything and I think you're jumping the gun a little in declaring Lieberman unscathed. I believe that he will still be allowed to caucus with the Dem's because there who he votes with on things like abortion, the evironment, and taxes.
Obama made it clear this week that Lieberman's deal will be left up to Reid and the Senate Dem Caucus. What I think is still very up in the air is whether he will be allowed to chair his committees and have a leadership role. I still think it's a very good possibility that he will be stripped of his leadership roles in the Senate. Most Dem's are wanting him to stay in the caucus, but are mum on whether he gets to stay in leadership of the party he's spent the last year criticizing.
Your line of argument was that Obama would support retribution after I mentioned that to take revenge against Lieberman would be evidence that BO was not able to change the petty politics of the past. I will concede it isn't a done deal, but if Reid goes against the advice of the leader of his party, it will be a political loss for BO and for the Dems. For BO b/c it will show that he's in for a long four years with Reid and Pelosi struggling for power and for the Dems b/c they will be demonstrating that the election was all about winning the White House versus embracing the vision of the man who won it.
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