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Give up red meat
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Give up red meat, but start looking for a new church home
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eat red meat, but be very careful when and with who
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Go out for dinner after church and order steak on the house
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01-04-2009, 11:26 PM
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Re: Will you give up red meat?
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Originally Posted by commonsense
I haven't tested it, but my reading has indicated that arthritis problems are relieved if you eliminate red meat.
What! No steak???
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Tis true - it sure does. CAUSE DEAD PEOPLE don't have symptoms!
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01-04-2009, 11:26 PM
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Re: Will you give up red meat?
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Whoa! Folks, before we get too hot and heavy here let me be clear... I have no such situation - and this thread, while demonstrative, is mostly Tongue in cheek!
I personally would make mine a Ribeye - 22 oz cooked medium with a bit of char. Sauteed onion and mushroom on the side please.
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Reminds me of an Elder, a Prophet who died when he was 87, he made this quote about Pork.
He said, "eating pork isn't a sin, but you just may end up seeing Jesus a little sooner rather than later." 
He never touched the stuff!
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01-04-2009, 11:37 PM
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Re: Will you give up red meat?
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Originally Posted by Ron
Seriously, if I do not believe in what he teaches, I would not attend that Church.
I wouldn't run around on every forum & internet board denouncing that teaching (not saying you are, but a large percentage of people do) & a lot of the more controversial stuff, not cutting hair, makeup, & wearing dresses have some justification in scripture.
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Seriously? So it's unacceptable to hold views to the contrary? One should simply clone the beliefs of the church's highest leader?
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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01-04-2009, 11:44 PM
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Re: Will you give up red meat?
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Seriously? So it's unacceptable to hold views to the contrary? One should simply clone the beliefs of the church's highest leader?
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Do you speak in God's stead?
Are you a Pastor of Pastors?
If what one teaches is not Biblical-leave.
If you are holding beliefs contrary to the leader, you should leave if it bothers you.
If you try to usurp his authority you are gonna get on God's bad side.
Remember Uzza & the Ark?
The priests were mishandling the ark and it stumbled?
God smote Uzzah when he attempted to cross into territory that he wasn't supposed to.
Better to have let God deal with the situation.
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01-04-2009, 11:54 PM
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Re: Will you give up red meat?
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
If a pastor/church leader asks all his constituents to give up red meat because he is convinced it's unhealthy what would you do?
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Your poll choices are too limited. I agree that we should limit or eliminate eating red meat, but doing so is easier said than done.
Oh, about this pastor, he has every right to share what he believes about what folks eat, it should stop at that line. The scripture is clear that this is a personal decision, and that we should give thanks whether we eat or do not eat.
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01-05-2009, 04:50 AM
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Re: Will you give up red meat?
I would quit that pastor and join the WPF.
It's not rebellion if you go to a stricter church. It's integrity.
And I don't see the WPF outlawing red meat any time soon.
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01-05-2009, 05:20 AM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Will you give up red meat?
I voted start looking for a new church...He would have no Bible right to make a law like that...he might tell the evils of red meat and suggest not eating it but to make it a law is not my type pastor....sorry...next thing he might serve might be Kool-Aid....
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01-05-2009, 05:38 AM
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Re: Will you give up red meat?
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Originally Posted by Ron
Do you speak in God's stead?
Are you a Pastor of Pastors?
If what one teaches is not Biblical-leave.
If you are holding beliefs contrary to the leader, you should leave if it bothers you.
If you try to usurp his authority you are gonna get on God's bad side.
Remember Uzza & the Ark?
The priests were mishandling the ark and it stumbled?
God smote Uzzah when he attempted to cross into territory that he wasn't supposed to.
Better to have let God deal with the situation.
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You do have a bit stronger view on this than I. IMO usurping authority in such a case would be impossible, because the leaders would have no such authority in personal decisions. It would be outside the scope of his authority.
Furthermore, in this case, the reach for the rule of law would be against the people who have the "ark" living inside them.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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01-05-2009, 05:45 AM
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Re: Will you give up red meat?
Brings to mind Colossians 2
15 When He had disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through Him.
16 Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day—
20 If you have died with Christ to the elementary principles of the world, why, as if you were living in the world, do you submit yourself to decrees, such as, 21 “Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!” 22 (which all refer to things destined to perish with use)—in accordance with the commandments and teachings of men? 23 These are matters which have, to be sure, the appearance of wisdom in self-made religion and self-abasement and severe treatment of the body, but are of no value against fleshly indulgence.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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01-05-2009, 05:51 AM
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Re: Will you give up red meat?
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Originally Posted by crakjak
Your poll choices are too limited. I agree that we should limit or eliminate eating red meat, but doing so is easier said than done.
Oh, about this pastor, he has every right to share what he believes about what folks eat, it should stop at that line. The scripture is clear that this is a personal decision, and that we should give thanks whether we eat or do not eat.
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Exactly. Therefore, those hearing the request have no obligation to submit to such whims of personal preferences.
I would go a bit further and say the hearers have a responsibility and an obligation to limit there compliance, lest in their compliance they strengthen a false teaching.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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