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Old 01-30-2009, 08:14 AM
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Re: Saints on Drugs

It is sad, this past summer at our state church camp the nurse who distributes medication to the campers told me that about 60% of the attendees take anti-depressants or retlin of some kind.

this particular camp was the 10 to 14 yr olds and total attendance was little over 600.
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It is sad, this past summer at our state church camp the nurse who distributes medication to the campers told me that about 60% of the attendees take anti-depressants or retlin of some kind.

this particular camp was the 10 to 14 yr olds and total attendance was little over 600.
I think this is absolutely sad! I would never medicate my child unless absolutely necessary. I don't think kids this young need their minds altered.
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Old 01-30-2009, 08:30 AM
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I think this is absolutely sad! I would never medicate my child unless absolutely necessary. I don't think kids this young need their minds altered.

Your tellin me, I thought mine acted brain damaged at that age with no medication..
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Old 01-30-2009, 08:47 AM
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Re: Saints on Drugs

Besides people being stupid.... yes I said STUPID it's no wonder we have as many health issues as we do.

1) People don't study for themselves
2) guy in a white coat says take this and he must be right.
3) we have more faith and trust in doctors than our own personal research because for the most part we are simply to lazy or stupid to do anything else.
4) we trust doctors and do what they say better than our own pastor which is pretty sad(which really is more of a spiritual thing than medical but you get my point)
5) people talk about faith and how God' word is blah blah blah yet they deny God's natural laws he has given us in how to eat etc...
6) They don't seek God on how to take care of there bodies and think the physical has no relationship to the spiritual.

I could go on and on but the current medical estalishment for the most part is not the answer people. Do your own research and get the balanced facts, not the PAID medical hype that controls the system.

If you have cancer, the worst thing you can do is take chemo, radiation, or the vast majority of pathetic treatments they suggest.
If your are a parent study the facts on Vaccines and how easy it is to take care of any health issue without them. It's not worth the risk of your children!
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Old 01-30-2009, 09:41 AM
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Homeopathic "drugs" are basically drugs that consist of actual toxic substances under the theory that a very little of a bad substance will help you body tolerate or cure itself from a MUCH larger portion. The problem comes that the dilution factor is so extreme that there is nearly no chance of even a single molecule of the original chemical in the final product. Practitioners, when confronted with this simple mathematical fact, will go out on a limb and start talking about "vibrations" and "memory" of the original substance still being present.
http://homeopathic.org/articles/view,35

http://homeopathic.org/articles/view,37

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Old 01-30-2009, 09:54 AM
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I'm amazed how so many in the Christian world have accepted the diagonostic fraud proposed and used by Psychiatry. We must educate ourselves concerning this wretched approach to help people who are not "feeling" quite right.

I have studied brain development from a medical and pshycological perspective, spent untold hours conseling people, and have served God for the last 28 years. Never have I seen such a reproach of deceit in the Church, using drugs to bring a person back to normality.

One of the Churches we recently attended was staggered by this lie. My wife was told, almost every adult female in the Church was on anti-depressent medication. My heart was grieved to find out that scores of our young children and young adults are on medications designed to "Balance" thier brain deficiancy.

I don't quite understand why so many have given in to these medical scams. Research supports, without question, the danger and the dark reasons why America is being "Drugged". Pharmicutical companies and paid off doctors have dupped God fearing people into believing they need these chemicals to survive and be normal. If we don't rise up and reclaim God's Word as the Book of True Medicine for the mind, we will send our future generation into the slums of drug addiction.

When I was saved, I was a drug addict. My mind was altered, and conceiving spiritual things in this illusional state was almost impossible. God's Word gave me comfort, letting me know a sober mind was a godly mind. His voice would ring clear and His counsel would lead me in the paths of righteousness. He could touch my mind, my heart, and my soul with a peace that passes all understanding, despite the fact I grew up in an alcholic home, filled with abuse. My job was to rid my body of chemical, and then fill my mind with His Word. It worked! And, it still works!

I don't want to get to long with this opening statement. I'll do my best to give more reason and rhyme in further responses to why we need to kiss the pharmy's goodbye, or else.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b30iwhEw9ho


I hope this video has helped to stir dialog and further research. This is just the beginning of facts that can be found online concerning this subject.

Satan stands by, wanting to keep us at bay with inflicted thoughts and a craving for pills.

The Lord can set us free if we'll claim it. Lets run into His tower where we will be safe. He will restore our souls! Nothing is too hard for Him. All things are possible!

We need to run into this Valley and kill Golieth!

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Awesome post. Glad you started it.

How come it is when we go to another country and the local witch doctor comes in with his grass skirts and bones and beads, and tries to give a potion to someone to help their "FEARS", we immedietly go into conniptions and intercessory prayers of deliverance. But when that person is wearing a white coat and the potion looks like a small pill to help "FEARS" we think it is okay?

The entire ADHD, Depression movement is a scam! Our kids don't need that!

Attention Deficit Syndrome! We all have that sometimes on a sunday morning.

What many of those kids need is less sugar, less video games and TV, and more pysical exercise. That combined with a disciplined pray and devotions schedule would work well! No drugs, no homeopathic medicine!
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Your tellin me, I thought mine acted brain damaged at that age with no medication..
You ain't kiddin! My dad's prescription for me if I got to hyperactive was a swift swat! Worked most of the time with no side affects!
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It is sad, this past summer at our state church camp the nurse who distributes medication to the campers told me that about 60% of the attendees take anti-depressants or retlin of some kind.

this particular camp was the 10 to 14 yr olds and total attendance was little over 600.
Man, can you imagine the long term harm to those kid's bodies with having drugs pumped into them for years on end? What does that do to their kidneys? Bad news for the future!
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Besides people being stupid.... yes I said STUPID it's no wonder we have as many health issues as we do.

1) People don't study for themselves
2) guy in a white coat says take this and he must be right.
3) we have more faith and trust in doctors than our own personal research because for the most part we are simply to lazy or stupid to do anything else.
4) we trust doctors and do what they say better than our own pastor which is pretty sad(which really is more of a spiritual thing than medical but you get my point)
5) people talk about faith and how God' word is blah blah blah yet they deny God's natural laws he has given us in how to eat etc...
6) They don't seek God on how to take care of there bodies and think the physical has no relationship to the spiritual.

I could go on and on but the current medical estalishment for the most part is not the answer people. Do your own research and get the balanced facts, not the PAID medical hype that controls the system.

If you have cancer, the worst thing you can do is take chemo, radiation, or the vast majority of pathetic treatments they suggest.
If your are a parent study the facts on Vaccines and how easy it is to take care of any health issue without them. It's not worth the risk of your children!
I trust most people here are smart enough to NOT take this advice.
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Old 01-30-2009, 10:05 AM
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So immunizations work because they have the actual substance? Just trying to understand the difference here...
That IS how immunizations work, but we are dealing with real amounts, not "one molecule in a 100 trillion" amounts. Plus, vaccines are usually dealing with a virus/bacteria which is dead or non-threatening, but close enough to the threatening ones that your body can't tell the difference and develops anti-bodies to it.
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