5% Mandatory Offering Required on top of 10% Tithe

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by CrankyYankee

Anyone have a copy or link to Daniel Segraves' article? I am curious.

I remember it very distinctly because I was brought into a pulpit to "share" this idea and I refused to go along. One person shouted me down from the congregation because "... That's not what Bro. ... preaches!"

The Brother in question was a local district official who promoted the "Half Shekel" teaching otherwisee known as "Tithe + Five."

The Seagraves article came out the very next week and I brought it with me into the pulpit the following Sunday. It seemed to be too much of a "coincidence" to ignore. I wouldn't be fired for about another year or so as I recollect. To my knowledge, there is no publicly available archive of The Forward since it's intended to be "ministers only."

[freeatlast]

I think of most that have around this forum for a while have read the threads concerning whether of not tithes is even a NT command.

Most know it is not in the NT...shoot it's not even commanded in the OT as we practice it today.

Charitable giving to help good causes, especially the poor is the most you can come up with that the NT teaches.

I give charitably to the church, over 10 %, but I told my wife to quit writing tithes in the memo.

I don't want my pastor to be lost for taking them for preaching.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

I think of most that have around this forum for a while have read the threads concerning whether of not tithes is even a NT command.

Most know it is not in the NT...shoot it's not even commanded in the OT as we practice it today.

Charitable giving to help good causes, especially the poor is the most you can come up with that the NT teaches.

I give charitably to the church, over 10 %, but I told my wife to quit writing tithes in the memo.

I don't want my pastor to be lost for taking them for preaching.

NEW TESTAMENT TEACHING!!!???!!!

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by pelathais

I remember it very distinctly because I was brought into a pulpit to "share" this idea and I refused to go along. One person shouted me down from the congregation because "... That's not what Bro. ... preaches!"

You must have gone to an interesting church.

[Steve Epley]

I repent I said I wasn't going to post but here goes.

The man this originated with preached several messages he made up from whole cloth. He was on the circuit preaching this and then others copied and followed. It spread like wildfire.

There is NOT ONE IOTA of Bible for this absurd 1/2 shekel teaching.

M.L. Walls of the ALJC wrote an article in the Witness concerning this false teaching. He call it extortion in the Name of the Lord.

[Sister Alvear]

Whatever we give is our blessing...however to teach this as a bible truth I cannot see it...may our giving far exceed the 5% mandatory offerings...

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I repent I said I wasn't going to post but here goes.

The man this originated with preached several messages he made up from whole cloth. He was on the circuit preaching this and then others copied and followed. It spread like wildfire.

There is NOT ONE IOTA of Bible for this absurd 1/2 shekel teaching.

M.L. Walls of the ALJC wrote an article in the Witness concerning this false teaching. He call it extortion in the Name of the Lord.

Is this the same as "the Temple Tax" that was going around several years ago?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Is this the same as "the Temple Tax" that was going around several years ago?

Yes.

[A.W. Bowman]

I must commend those who have challenged this teaching. The person(s) responsible for this 10% plus 5% are the ones about whom it is written, "Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies , which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith : so do. Now the end of the commandment is charity [love] out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned: From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling ;(having…: or, not aiming at) Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm. But we know that the law is good , if a man use it lawfully; ..."

The attempt to make merchandise of the saints, by manipulating both the content and the context of this passage (Ex 30:13-15), is a classic case of scripture being twisted to "support" some man-made agenda. Or, the preachers who teach the 10 + 5 doctrine are simply ignorant of the Hebrew history, religion, and language and have joined the ranks of the blind teachers attempting to make blind followers.

Again, those who have challenged this precept, thank you and God's grace be unto you.

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by HaShaliach

I must commend those who have challenged this teaching. The person(s) responsible for this 10% plus 5% are the ones about whom it is written, "Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies , which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith : so do. Now the end of the commandment is charity [love] out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned: From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling ;(having…: or, not aiming at) Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm. But we know that the law is good , if a man use it lawfully; ..."

The attempt to make merchandise of the saints, by manipulating both the content and the context of this passage, is a classic case of scripture being twisted to "support" some man-made agenda. Or, the preachers who teach the 10 + 5 doctrine are simply ignorant of the Hebrew history, religion, and language and have joined the ranks of the blind teachers attempting to make blind followers.

Again, those who have challenged this precept, thank you and God's grace be unto you.

BINGO. Ya hit the nail on the head my friend.