Why would a Pastor do this to me ? - Page 2

Evang.Benincasa · #11 03-24-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinatra

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Unfortunately, this happened quite a while back. The church that I attended is the only Apostolic church here. I try not to be bitter. I remind myself it isn't God that did this to me but a man. But it still hurts .

Peace, Sinatra

How long ago did this happen?

RandyWayne · #12 03-24-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Must be a very popular thing, because either you had once posted this story on FCF, NFCF, or GNC , or I heard the same exact story before?

Please I mean you no offence but did you ever post this story before?

I remember reading it somewhere (probably here) as well.

That doesn't make it UNtrue.

Aquila · #13 03-24-2009, 10:54 PM

My wife and I have a similar story. I had attended this church for nearly 12 years also. I was part of the minister's team and on rotation to preach. My wife and I taught Sunday School, were part of the Praise Team, members of the choir, assisted our outreach director, and I drafted a men's life focus ministry with regular meetings and outings. My wife would occasionally lead the choir and the praise team in the pastor's wife's absence. Well, they decided to open the church for morning prayer services during the week. The church was open from 6am to 10am for "come and go prayer". However, the ministers were "required" to be at these prayer meetings. Well...my wife and I both work and we only have one vehicle. I have to drive my wife to work, drive my son to daycare, and then get myself to work before 8am every morning. There was no way we could make these meetings and be to work on time, that is unless we drove across town just to sit for 10 minutes and leave. I explained my situation to my pastor and he appeared to understand. Well about two weeks later my wife was cornered by the pastor's wife and was told that if we "consecrated ourselves" by making morning prayer maybe my "ministry would open up". Well...my wife explained that we had prayed and spoken to the pastor about the issue and that she didn't believe we had to be there. Our pastor's wife pointed her finger in my wife's face and said, "That's a spirit of rebellion!" My wife exploded into tears and left the sanctuary. I only heard a ruckus but didn't know what it was about. My wife went into the ladies room so I followed the pastor's wife up into the pastor's office where she was hysterically denouncing my wife as a rebellious woman who had no respect for spiritual authority. I stepped in and asked what was the matter and she began to point and scream at me about keeping my wife under subjection. I looked at the pastor expecting him to calm his wife down...she was obviously emotional but he allowed her to lay into me. I interrupted her and said, "Look, I don't even know what happened. We all need to take a seat, calm down, and talk about this like adults." With that she sat down, started crying, and began texting. My pastor began to lecture me about how his wife's "discernment" was rarely wrong. At that moment my wife walked into the office and things got heated between the two of them again. Eventually we all calmed down and agreed to sleep on it all then my wife and I left. My wife said that she'd never return. I told her that she should give it a chance. We continued attending this church for a little over 7 months after that event. However, during that period my preaching time was cut to nearly nothing, my wife was removed from the singer's schedule, everything she volunteered for was "full" and she was told that she wasn't needed. Her heart was broken. Eventually we decided that we had to leave. It really hurt us. We've not been the same.

Evang.Benincasa · #14 03-24-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I remember reading it somewhere (probably here) as well.

That doesn't make it UNtrue.

Doesn't make it untrue, but I just remember seeing the exact same scenario posted or had heard about a similar story.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Sinatra · #15 03-24-2009, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Must be a very popular thing, because either you had once posted this story on FCF, NFCF, or GNC , or I heard the same exact story before?

Please I mean you no offence but did you ever post this story before?

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

I've never heard of those sites. I happened upon this site a few days ago. The ONLY other time that I've told this, was the other day, I posted it on THIS site on page 8 under shunning, in the Deep Waters area.
Peace, Sinatra

Aquila · #16 03-24-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Doesn't make it untrue, but I just remember seeing the exact same scenario posted or had heard about a similar story.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

You might have heard my story. I've posted it a couple times here and on some of the other forums.

RandyWayne · #17 03-24-2009, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

My wife and I have a similar story. I had attended this church for nearly 12 years also. I was part of the minister's team and on rotation to preach. My wife and I taught Sunday School, were part of the Praise Team, members of the choir, assisted our outreach director, and I drafted a men's life focus ministry with regular meetings and outings. My wife would occasionally lead the choir and the praise team in the pastor's wife's absence. Well, they decided to open the church for morning prayer services during the week. The church was open from 6am to 10am for "come and go prayer". However, the ministers were "required" to be at these prayer meetings. Well...my wife and I both work and we only have one vehicle. I have to drive my wife to work, drive my son to daycare, and then get myself to work before 8am every morning. There was no way we could make these meetings and be to work on time, that is unless we drove across town just to sit for 10 minutes and leave. I explained my situation to my pastor and he appeared to understand. Well about two weeks later my wife was cornered by the pastor's wife and was told that if we "consecrated ourselves" by making morning prayer maybe my "ministry would open up". Well...my wife explained that we had prayed and spoken to the pastor about the issue and that she didn't believe we had to be there. Our pastor's wife pointed her finger in my wife's face and said, "That's a spirit of rebellion!" My wife exploded into tears and left the sanctuary. I only heard a ruckus but didn't know what it was about. My wife went into the ladies room so I followed the pastor's wife up into the pastor's office where she was hysterically denouncing my wife as a rebellious woman who had no respect for spiritual authority. I stepped in and asked what was the matter and she began to point and scream at me about keeping my wife under subjection. I looked at the pastor expecting him to calm his wife down...she was obviously emotional but he allowed her to lay into me. I interrupted her and said, "Look, I don't even know what happened. We all need to take a seat, calm down, and talk about this like adults." With that she sat down, started crying, and began texting. My pastor began to lecture me about how his wife's "discernment" was rarely wrong. At that moment my wife walked into the office and things got heated between the two of them again. Eventually we all calmed down and agreed to sleep on it all then my wife and I left. My wife said that she'd never return. I told her that she should give it a chance. We continued attending this church for a little over 7 months after that event. However, during that period my preaching time was cut to nearly nothing, my wife was removed from the singer's schedule, everything she volunteered for was "full" and she was told that she wasn't needed. Her heart was broken. Eventually we decided that we had to leave. It really hurt us. We've not been the same.

It sounds like the only thing that would have hurt this pastors wife was for you to withhold any tithers or offerings.
Looking back at my own circumstances and comparing them to yours, I marvel at how much time I gave them. In your case 7 months. If it happened today, I would be out that day, or minute.

RandyWayne · #18 03-24-2009, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinatra

I've never heard of those sites. I happened upon this site a few days ago. The ONLY other time that I've told this, was the other day, I posted it on THIS site on page 8 under shunning, in the Deep Waters area.
Peace, Sinatra

Ok, that is where I read it.

Nothing wrong with repeating. I have done it many times.

Evang.Benincasa · #19 03-24-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

My wife and I have a similar story. I had attended this church for nearly 12 years also. I was part of the minister's team and on rotation to preach. My wife and I taught Sunday School, were part of the Praise Team, members of the choir, assisted our outreach director, and I drafted a men's life focus ministry with regular meetings and outings. My wife would occasionally lead the choir and the praise team in the pastor's wife's absence. Well, they decided to open the church for morning prayer services during the week. The church was open from 6am to 10am for "come and go prayer". However, the ministers were "required" to be at these prayer meetings. Well...my wife and I both work and we only have one vehicle. I have to drive my wife to work, drive my son to daycare, and then get myself to work before 8am every morning. There was no way we could make these meetings and be to work on time, that is unless we drove across town just to sit for 10 minutes and leave. I explained my situation to my pastor and he appeared to understand. Well about two weeks later my wife was cornered by the pastor's wife and was told that if we "consecrated ourselves" by making morning prayer maybe my "ministry would open up". Well...my wife explained that we had prayed and spoken to the pastor about the issue and that she didn't believe we had to be there. Our pastor's wife pointed her finger in my wife's face and said, "That's a spirit of rebellion!" My wife exploded into tears and left the sanctuary. I only heard a ruckus but didn't know what it was about. My wife went into the ladies room so I followed the pastor's wife up into the pastor's office where she was hysterically denouncing my wife as a rebellious woman who had no respect for spiritual authority. I stepped in and asked what was the matter and she began to point and scream at me about keeping my wife under subjection. I looked at the pastor expecting him to calm his wife down...she was obviously emotional but he allowed her to lay into me. I interrupted her and said, "Look, I don't even know what happened. We all need to take a seat, calm down, and talk about this like adults." With that she sat down, started crying, and began texting. My pastor began to lecture me about how his wife's "discernment" was rarely wrong. At that moment my wife walked into the office and things got heated between the two of them again. Eventually we all calmed down and agreed to sleep on it all then my wife and I left. My wife said that she'd never return. I told her that she should give it a chance. We continued attending this church for a little over 7 months after that event. However, during that period my preaching time was cut to nearly nothing, my wife was removed from the singer's schedule, everything she volunteered for was "full" and she was told that she wasn't needed. Her heart was broken. Eventually we decided that we had to leave. It really hurt us. We've not been the same.

Ever wonder why people really aren't that enthused about going to church?

I had a wonderful Pastor when I was in Arcadia Florida. He and his wife were beautiful to me. Everyone should be blessed with such awesome people.
I also had my share of the Dracula ministry, and those kind I wouldn't wish on the devil.

Evang.Benincasa · #20 03-24-2009, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinatra

I've never heard of those sites. I happened upon this site a few days ago. The ONLY other time that I've told this, was the other day, I posted it on THIS site on page 8 under shunning, in the Deep Waters area.
Peace, Sinatra

No, I haven't heard that story recently, but a while back.