Learning to trust...

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Barb

Yes, it is, but where have we lost it...or did we ever have it?! How did we get here where Saints fear trusting Saints?!

I think people have more issues in general today than they used to. So that would make trust a greater issue along with all the rest.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Felicity

I think people have more issues in general today than they used to. So that would make trust a greater issue along with all the rest.

And so the fear factor is greater...agreed. But why can't we trust our brothers and sisters in Christ?!

We should be able to turn to any Saint any where and say, "I have a need...a problem...an issue...pray for me please" without folks thinking we're near backslidden or saying, "What's wrong with them?!

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Barb

And so the fear factor is greater...agreed. But why can't we trust our brothers and sisters in Christ?!

We should be able to turn to any Saint any where and say, "I have a need...a problem...and issue...pray for me please" without folks thinking we're near backslidden or saying, "What's wrong with them?!

Okay, this is just my thots here and there's more than one way to go with this ... but I would have no problem turning to most people in my church and asking them to pray for me depending on the need. Some needs I would keep to myself. Some I would only share with a very select few and then there are other more general needs I would share with a BUNCH of people - maybe even the whole church.

Now how many of those people would really take my need - whatever it was - to heart and pray I don't know for sure. Some would. Some wouldn't.

It's not wise to just entrust everything and anything to anyone. It's not even so much about the other person possibly not being trustworthy. It's just not wisdom to tell anything or everything to any one person. And scripture teaches we need to exercise discretion in this regard.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Okay, this is just my thots here and there's more than one way to go with this ... but I would have no problem turning to most people in my church and asking them to pray for me depending on the need. Some needs I would keep to myself. Some I would only share with a very select few and then there are other more general needs I would share with a BUNCH of people - maybe even the whole church.

Now how many of those people would really take my need - whatever it was - to heart and pray I don't know for sure. Some would. Some wouldn't.

It's not wise to just entrust everything and anything to anyone. It's not even so much about the other person possibly not being trustworthy. It's just not wisdom to tell anything or everything to any one person. And scripture teaches we need to exercise discretion in this regard.

Yes, I agree with all of this...I guess I am not articulating this correctly.

Going on the premise of the opening post, where my nephew told his dad, "We couldn't help the rabbit because he didn't trust us"...is the Church a place that the hurting can find refuge?!

If not, why not?!

[Subdued]

Originally Posted by Barb

Yes, I agree with all of this...I guess I am not articulating this correctly.

Going on the premise of the opening post, where my nephew told his dad, "We couldn't help the rabbit because he didn't trust us"...is the Church a place that the hurting can find refuge?!

If not, why not?!

Yes & no is how I would answer that. SHOULD it be? Yes, of course... in a way. But I only trust Jesus completely - hopefully, I can trust some to offer kindness, prayer & support. But I don't think I would ever again blindly trust another human being. Not with private matters.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Subdued

Yes & no is how I would answer that. SHOULD it be? Yes, of course... in a way. But I only trust Jesus completely - hopefully, I can trust some to offer kindness, prayer & support. But I don't think I would ever again blindly trust another human being. Not with private matters.

I understand this...girl, I don't blindly trust my mother!!

I guess I am just not expressing this correctly...my thoughts are not so much with sharing a confidence. Can people ever trust that the Church will love and not judge...help and not injure more...?!

[Subdued]

Originally Posted by Barb

I understand this...girl, I don't blindly trust my mother!!

I guess I am just not expressing this correctly...my thoughts are not so much with sahring a confidence. Can people ever trust that the Church will love and not judge...help and not injure more...?!

IMO, no. People are human - people hurt people. Then again, I do realize that we should not judge, but love. So... honestly, I have no idea.

[Now, wasn't THAT helpful??]

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Barb

Yes, I agree with all of this...I guess I am not articulating this correctly.

Going on the premise of the opening post, where my nephew told his dad, "We couldn't help the rabbit because he didn't trust us"...is the Church a place that the hurting can find refuge?!

If not, why not?!

Sorry, guess I went hopping off down a different bunny trail. Sorry.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Sorry, guess I went hopping off down a different bunny trail. Sorry.

No...not at all...I went there responding to ILG's post, too...

I'm just trying to find an answer to a question that has had me baffled...can people ever learn to trust us?!

I suppose their is no answer, or perhaps ILG, Subby and you have already answered sufficiently and I am too overtired to comprehend.

But your posts were good and true and I agree...

[Subdued]

Originally Posted by Barb

No...not at all...I went there responding to ILG's post, too...

I'm just trying to find an answer to a question that has had me baffled...can people ever learn to trust us?!

I suppose their is no answer, or perhaps ILG, Subby and you have already answered sufficiently and I am too overtired to comprehend.

But your posts were good and true and I agree...

Well, how would YOU answer this question, Barb?