Image And Likeness Question ? - Page 2

Falla39 · #11 05-31-2009, 06:55 AM

No man has seen GOD at any time.

God IS a Spirit and they that worship Him MUST worship Him in
Spirit and in Truth.

Jesus came to his own and his own received him not. They still
did not believe. (without faith it is impossible to please God. For
he that cometh to God MUST believe that HE IS, and that He is
a Rewarder of them that DILIGENTLY seek Him.

Abraham BELIEVED God and it was accounted unto him for right-
eousness. By faith///Read Hebrews 11. What we see, we do not
have to have faith for.

Faith is not WHAT we SEE, but what we take hold of BY FAITH,
until that we do NOT see, we DO see. We shall see Him as He IS.
And every man that hath this hope in Him, purifieth himself, even
as He is pure.

Falla39

Michael The Disciple · #12 05-31-2009, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Falla39

No man has seen GOD at any time.

God IS a Spirit and they that worship Him MUST worship Him in
Spirit and in Truth.

Jesus came to his own and his own received him not. They still
did not believe. (without faith it is impossible to please God. For
he that cometh to God MUST believe that HE IS, and that He is
a Rewarder of them that DILIGENTLY seek Him.

Abraham BELIEVED God and it was accounted unto him for right-
eousness. By faith///Read Hebrews 11. What we see, we do not
have to have faith for.

Faith is not WHAT we SEE, but what we take hold of BY FAITH,
until that we do NOT see, we DO see. We shall see Him as He IS.
And every man that hath this hope in Him, purifieth himself, even
as He is pure.

Falla39

Its true no one has seen God at any time. Yet are not the verses I have posted here men seeing God?

On one hand he is unseen. On another he has been seen many times in scripture. What is the reconciliation of the two truths?

In what way has God never been seen?

In his omnipresence!

27: But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded? 1 Kings 8:27

In his bare essence God is bigger than the Galaxies he made. All of them in total are not large enough to contain him!

In this realm of being he is everywhere there is to be at all times, fully invisible to creation.

In what way HAS GOD BEEN SEEN?

By forming a visible image of that omnipresent spirit at the beginning of creation so he would have a way to interact with angels and men.

15: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. Col. 1:15-17

This visible FORM of himself was not another co eternal person of God but God himself in visible form.

Theologians have called this form a "theophany". This is an unbiblical term. The Bible Writers were inspired to use the term "Angel of YHWH".

9: In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old. Isaiah 63:9

So in the Tanakh God was shown to be invisible as omnipresent spirit but visible as the form or angel of his presence.

Falla39 · #13 05-31-2009, 08:24 AM

The OT mentions on more than one occasion, "the angel of His Presence". The "ark
of the covenant" represented His Presence. But in and through the New Covenant,
His Presence could/should be in every one who who received Him. He would be IN
them, instead of just WITH them. It just depends on how much of His Presence we
desire and will allow. How much do we desire or stay in His Presence. HE is able to
do exceeding abundantly above what we can ask or think, ACCORDING TO THE
POWER/PRESENCE that dwelleth IN us!!!

I believe it is God's Will and desire to have a representative, someone in every home
to represent HIS POWER and HIS PRESENcE!!! It can be male or female. Someone who
will consecrate and dedicate to stand in the "gap/or make up the hedge, so that when
the enemy comes into a home or sanctuary, that "angel of HIS PRESENCE, can with
power and authority stand and say with authority, "NO, devil! Not this home! Not this
sanctuary!! and stand ....!

That God may be all in all. That's His desire. Read 1 Cor.15:28.
God (Spirit) shined the light of His glory in the face of Jesus Christ. Christ
in us, the hope of glory. If the Spirit of him who was in Christ dwell in us,
God should be shining through our faces also. That's where the world will
"see" God. God was "with" them in the first century! God is "IN" us in this
(could it be) the last century! Shining in the light of HIS GLORY!!!

Blessings, Brother!

Falla39