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Old 04-18-2007, 01:09 AM
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Sometimes there is more than one prince.It depends.Have you read Sister Deborah Randalls books on Spiritual warfare? I learned alot from her when they pastored us.
No sis, I never heard tell of her. I haven't read any books on the topic to be honest. I just know some things from experience.
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Old 04-18-2007, 06:45 AM
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Sometimes there is more than one prince.It depends.Have you read Sister Deborah Randalls books on Spiritual warfare? I learned alot from her when they pastored us.
No, I have not. I will get the book though. Thanks.
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It is unfortunate that we do not teach more on this critical topic. As a result of a lack of teaching there is a lack of awareness and our people become comfortable cohabiting with spiritual wickedness. Of course there is a responsibility that accompanies bringing awareness to your church. The responsibility is the proper equipping of the people to defeat these spirits!

I think some of the fear among is caused by a failure to understand that we have been given dominion over these spirits by the cross. All that was stolen in Eden was returned to us at Calvary and the empty tomb! We simply have to begin to walk according to the power that we have been given and take control in the spiritual realm.

For those who may think I am promoting dominion theology, please take a rest. I am a proponent of spiritual dominion not secular dominion. WE are citizens of another Kingdom not this one. One of the reasons I think folks are weak in the area of spiritual dominion is that as a result of pre-trib teaching we have been waiting for the 2nd coming of Christ to conquer our enemy and put him in chains, thus becoming like the man at the pool of Bethesda, impotent!
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:30 AM
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I will try and share some stories later.

Today is going to be a very busy day at work.
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:23 AM
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Daniel 10:20-21 (Amplified Bible)

20 Then he said, Do you know why I have come to you? And now I will return to fight with the [hostile] prince of Persia; and when I have gone, behold, the [hostile] prince of Greece will come.

21 But I will tell you what is inscribed in the writing of truth or the Book of Truth. There is no one who holds with me and strengthens himself against these [hostile spirit forces] except Michael, your prince [national guardian angel].

the scriptures show us that regional princes can also occasionally "move" out of their territory for greater purposes.... has anyone noticed this either???
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:25 AM
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I've done a ton of spiritual warfare with territorial spirits. Nothing I read out of a book. Just real life stuff. It is very, very hard work. You can't just pray one prayer of casting out some spirit and have it over. It will suck the life out of you but for the grace of God. It's not about singing warrior songs in church. It's about being at the feet of Jesus and giving up your whole self to God and sticking it out no matter what it takes. Then, at that point you pretty much find out Who is in charge and it isn't you.
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:03 AM
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I've done a ton of spiritual warfare with territorial spirits. Nothing I read out of a book. Just real life stuff. It is very, very hard work. You can't just pray one prayer of casting out some spirit and have it over. It will suck the life out of you but for the grace of God. It's not about singing warrior songs in church. It's about being at the feet of Jesus and giving up your whole self to God and sticking it out no matter what it takes. Then, at that point you pretty much find out Who is in charge and it isn't you.
Great post and great advice. Can you go into a little more detail on the territorial stuff that you experienced.
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:20 AM
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Great post and great advice. Can you go into a little more detail on the territorial stuff that you experienced.
That's a very loaded question Jill. LOL!

Well, let's just put it this way:

Once upon a time there was a man. He had once owned something, as far as this ownership would go, but, in time, he sold what it was that he owned. When he sold this item, the new owner wanted what was his and the old owner gave him most of it and said he would get the rest in due time. The new owner waited patiently but the rest of what he bought never came to him. The new owner also realized that he had been duped. What was told him about the item he purchased was only partly true and the old owner had stripped and sold much of the item. When the new owner protested to the right people, the old owner, who was well known and liked by the 'right people' said that the new owner was not telling the truth. He said he gave everything over just as the deal said. He also told this to the townspeople who also knew him. Some believed the new owner and some believe the old. Then, the old owner or at least some people that knew the old owner decided that he actually still owned the item. They tried to get the 'right people' and the townspeople to persecute the new owner as a liar. There was great spiritual warfare that took place as accusations flew and ownership was fought for strongly by both sides.

Great spiritual warfare took place. God knew who the real owner was. He opened doors that could have never been possibly opened by any human being. Unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain that build it.
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I have seen this taken to extremes and folk claiming their cars are demon possessed.
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Can any of you share your experiences in Spiritual Warfare or dealing with territorial spirits?
Lots could be said. I will say one thing, "God won't put more on you that you can bear and we do need to take that authority."

As Phil said, "spiritual authority" and not the Dominion teaching.

My pastor had me pray with a woman Sunday night. The Lord impressed me to tell her that she needed to take the authority over that depression herself. She's been living for God long enough to know how to do it.

We do need people to pray for us, but we also need to know that we have the authority in the Holy Ghost to bind spirits that come against us.
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