Capitol Hill gathering to inspire Muslim aggressio

[SOUNWORTHY]

Originally Posted by Falla39

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/D...aspx?id=695600

I have received this from about four sources and everytime I try to open it it shuts down AOL completely. Same thing happened to my wife when she tried to open it.

[Baron1710]

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/loca...n_capitol_hill

The local fox station said several hundred.

[Falla39]

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/De...aspx?id=698570

[Pressing-On]

How do we say that Islam is the fasting growing religion when the Word of God clearly says - Matthew 13:31 "Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field: (32) Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.


II Timothy 1:7 "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

How do we say that Islam in the fasting growing religion when the Word of God clearly says - Matthew 13:31 "Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field: (32) Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.
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A mustard seed is supposed to produce a mustard plant. The seed spoken of by Jesus did not do that. Instead it produced a monstrosity, a huge tree. And then, the birds (symbolic of demon spirits, compare Matthew 13:4 with verse 19, and also see Revelation 18:2) made it their dwelling place.

There are differences of opinion among teachers. Some teach that the Kingdom of God will fill the earth and everyone will be converted and become a part of it and that fulfills the prayer "Thy kingdom come" and that is the second coming of Christ. Others believe that mustard tree is the false church which takes over control of the world.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Sam

A mustard seed is supposed to produce a mustard plant. The seed spoken of by Jesus did not do that. Instead it produced a monstrosity, a huge tree. And then, the birds (symbolic of demon spirits, compare Matthew 13:4 with verse 19, and also see Revelation 18:2) made it their dwelling place.

There are differences of opinion among teachers. Some teach that the Kingdom of God will fill the earth and everyone will be converted and become a part of it and that fulfills the prayer "Thy kingdom come" and that is the second coming of Christ. Others believe that mustard tree is the false church which takes over control of the world.

I couldn't possibly go with that interpretation as it contradicts the Word of God. If He likens the Mustard Seed to the Kingdom of Heaven, how could that possibly be the false church?

Another lesson to be learned from the Mustard seed could be that once it's planted and takes root, it's very hard to get rid of. That would suggest the same and true of the Kingdom of God.

A few other points on the Mustard Seed - it has a pungent and fiery taste which is very beneficial for health. Once it's been planted it's scarcely impossible to rid the area of it's seeds. When the seeds fall, they germinate at once!

Sounds like the Kingdom of God to me!

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I couldn't possibly go with that interpretation as it contradicts the Word of God. If He likens the Mustard Seed to the Kingdom of Heaven, how could that possibly be the false church?

Another lesson to be learned from the Mustard seed could be that once it's planted and takes root, it's very hard to get rid of. That would suggest the same and true of the Kingdom of God.

A few other points on the Mustard Seed - it has a pungent and fiery taste which is very beneficial for health. Once it's been planted it's scarcely impossible to rid the area of it's seeds. When the seeds fall, they germinate at once!

Sounds like the Kingdom of God to me!

Pressing On,
I'm not arguing, just presenting the viewpoint of some teachers. I realize there are differences of opinion among Christians on that and on other things.

Some look at the "Kingdom" as presented in Matthew 13 as the outward kingdom, not Bible Christianity, but "Churchianity" or "Christendom" instead of real Christianity. The seven parables are considered to be a summary of the course of the Church Age until the end.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Sam

Pressing On,
I'm not arguing, just presenting the viewpoint of some teachers. I realize there are differences of opinion among Christians on that and on other things.

Some look at the "Kingdom" as presented in Matthew 13 as the outward kingdom, not Bible Christianity, but "Churchianity" or "Christendom" instead of real Christianity. The seven parables are considered to be a summary of the course of the Church Age until the end.

I knew you weren't arguing, Sam, just putting out the information that you have studied. I just gave my view. I'm not arguing either.

[Walks_in_islam]

There is a reason our forefathers recognized and developed those principles and it has nothing at all to do with Islam. The price for the noted rights has been paid and this is not something that should be allowed to slip away lightly. Separation of the two is one of the fundamental principles that above all others should be maintained, protected, and guarded against. By both sides.

Your argument that it is "dangerous because of islam" is a bit thin when the foundations or roots of these principles trace back to persecution of citizens by "church-based" governments formed on the basis of "christian law". Indeed it is BECAUSE of the actions of the christian churches (actions that actually happened vs. theoretical actions that could happen) that these principles were put in place to begin with. A return to witch burning, heresy trials, and torture is not in the best interests of either side nor to our country. Included is application of Sharia law in any way, shape, or form. Islam would do well to not repeat the mistakes of others. Christianity would do well to remember and not return to the past.

Were the pentecostal church to determine what the laws are or should be with pentecostal ministers running the government our society would look a lot like, be worse than, and be more repressive than saudi itself. At least flow of information is more free under sharia law than "pentecostal law". I have no love for or wish for either.

Originally Posted by Aquila

We as Christians have attempted to widdle away at the Separation of Church and state for decades. I've always argued that this is dangerous because Islam is the fastest growing religion in the United States. Get read... an American Islamic Coalition is going to move for serious political clout within the next two or three generations.

We need to completely secularize our government and insure equal rights for all to protect ourselves.

[Walks_in_islam]

Your title of "inspiring agression" when the actual events were obtain a permit, schedule a day of prayer, meet and pray, then go home seems a bit histrionic don't you think? Matching "islamaphobia" with the phobia of christians that some third-world Muslim countries have only brings one down to their level and undoes over 200 years of building something better for the world.

Originally Posted by Falla39

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