Yea, I know what you mean. Did you grow up being apostolic?
From age 12 to 18. I still consider myself apostolic (albeit a one-stepper who is saved at repentance should one drop dead between asking for forgiveness and being baptized), just no longer in the UPC.
I just remember people going through the steps and fellow saints rejoicing. I did too... but the REAL rejoicing occurred when they showed up in a service or two looking the part. Then you knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that salvation had visited them. As a teen, this is what I equated "being saved" to. This is what most equated it to.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
From age 12 to 18. I still consider myself apostolic (albeit a one-stepper who is saved at repentance should one drop dead between asking for forgiveness and being baptized), just no longer in the UPC.
I just remember people going through the steps and fellow saints rejoicing. I did too... but the REAL rejoicing occurred when they showed up in a service or two looking the part. Then you knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that salvation had visited them. As a teen, this is what I equated "being saved" to. This is what most equated it to.
Thats about the length of time I stayed in it. Actually mine was closer to 13-17. Probably started getting out of it somewhere between 16 and 17 and finally left when I was 17. I was really into it when I started though. For those first few years, I was totally into it. I would pray or read the bible in most all my free time at high school, and if you went to a public high school you know that had to be difficult. Though, they respected me. Alot of my friends then would try to avoid cussin around me, not that they were perfect at not lettin it slip, cause they tended to cuss a whole whole lot. Anytime someone said GD, one of my friends would always go, God don't need a dam he can walk on water. I also remember my mom trying to make me wear shorts in the summer and I refused, even when we were on vacation at the beach. I remember burning some of my non-christian cd's at one time. I was really into the whole thing those few years. I remember being so glad to "have the truth". I remember worshipping all the time during church, just because I wanted to please God and worshipping and prayer and reading the bible and fasting was what I was told pleased him. So those were the things I did most of the time that I could. I've been complimented so many times on how I used to worship God. But, what I'm trying to get to is that, I think those not raised in it take alot of different stuff away from the preaching and such than those who were raised in it.
I totally agree with your bolded statement. That was true in my experience as well.
Again, during my teen years, I would have AND felt good about being "persecuted for Christ" when I was rejected.
I was speaking about someone interrupting someone else witnessing. Why would anyone do that?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
I was speaking about someone interrupting someone else witnessing. Why would anyone do that?
...the short answer, because the person doing the interupting doesn't see the person witnessing as being right enough in their own spiritual life to share the truth with anyone. I'm sure in their mind they were just trying to help the person asking about God.
...the short answer, because the person doing the interupting doesn't see the person witnessing as being right enough in their own spiritual life to share the truth with anyone. I'm sure in their mind they were just trying to help the person asking about God.
If they were not so arrogant, they would realize that telling this person that all the "other" churches in town are full of hypocrites is just another way of telling the guy that there is no body of Christ, only religion.
What arrogance, you have to go to their church or go to hell.
All I can say S. O., is those are some strange holiness friends you have. The conservatives I know (most) would crawl 2 blocks to get new people to step inside our church.
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
During my teen years, I would have been that person to approach someone and tell them they needed a haircut (if they were a guy) or needed to put on a long dress (if they were a gal), and oh yes eventually preach Acts 2:38.
....and completely and utterly forget to mention Jesus in any of it.
Well now Randy, scriptures pretty clear that Jesus laid down a bunch of dictates and demands to the woman at the well, before he offered her the spiritual Water that would make her never thirst again.
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