I am Holier than God ...

[DAII]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

I doubt anyone in their right mind thinks they are "holier than God". Some folks might just feel that if they eschew certain things with a set of ridged standards it will help them become as holy as God would like them to be.

So in the eschewing with their man-made, extrabiblical standards they become as holy and righteous as God would like them to be?

Whew ... That has got to be tiring!!!! ... The Pharisees had over 2,000 similar fences for the Law as well.

[DAII]

I guess then we shouldn't wince, flinch or correct the practice of mortification of the flesh ... as there is "bible" for it ...

It is the obvious Christian response for the wooden literalism of "putting the flesh to death" ....

Self-flagellation, guys?

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by DAII

So in the eschewing with their man-made, extrabiblical standards they become as holy and righteous as God would like them to be?

Whew ... That has got to be tiring!!!! ... The Pharisees had over 2,000 similar fences for the Law as well.

Have you ever read the Mishnah?

Do you think that principals behind what might be considered extra-biblical standards are valid and needful?

Do you agree, for example, that one might not see it as sin for a woman to wear pants, yet the underlying principal of sexual distinction and perhaps modesty, for said standard, is biblical and ought to be taught as such?

Or even if a woman does not see cutting her hair as a sin, wouldn't the principles of gender difference, submitting to the husband, and long hair being glorious possibly make a woman keep her hair long?

I've always heard it said that before you take a fence down you should understand why it was built in the first place.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by DividedThigh

have to agree dan, without him imputing righteousness to us, we are pretty sad

yes, no matter how hard we try.


So jewelry or no jewelry-- as long as what you are or are not saying, doing, and wearing does not take away from the Glory of God being revealed in your life.


Here's a question though. Biblically, is there a precedent or even mandate for us to "protect" our salvation with words and actions in addition to what Christ completed for us?

[Sister Alvear]

Exodus 33:22 which Moses hid in to protect him from the glory and holiness of God when He walked by Moses. Moses hid in the cleft of that rock which is a split or hollow place. It was a hiding place, a place of protection because of the near presence of God...not one of us could ever match the HOLINESS of God and nothing we do can clease us without His Help...
If we ever come in contact with te REAL HOLINESS of God our lives will be orever changed...

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by DividedThigh

have to agree dan, without him imputing righteousness to us, we are pretty sad

Yeah you are.

[TheLegalist]

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[TheLegalist]

Originally Posted by DAII

That is essentially the position of those that stand by a non-existent extrabiblical NT prohibition against ornamental jewelry.

He inspired these words comparing His righteousness to what some erroneously deem as sin and immodesty.


Would He compare His righteousness to fornication? Adultery? A murder weapon? A pagan idol?

Your standards and identity are holier than the Almighty's?

If so, you don't have the whole Truth.

He is our Holiness.

As he swallows some pork etc... Consistency thou are so far from them.

Isaiah 66:
14 When you see this, your heart shall rejoice,
And your bones shall flourish like grass;
The hand of the LORD shall be known to His servants,
And His indignation to His enemies.
15 For behold, the LORD will come with fire
And with His chariots, like a whirlwind,
To render His anger with fury,
And His rebuke with flames of fire.
16 For by fire and by His sword
The LORD will judge all flesh;
And the slain of the LORD shall be many.
17 “Those who sanctify themselves and purify themselves,
To go to the gardens
After an idol in the midst,
Eating swine’s flesh and the abomination and the mouse,
Shall be consumed together,” says the LORD.

[DividedThigh]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

yes, no matter how hard we try.


So jewelry or no jewelry-- as long as what you are or are not saying, doing, and wearing does not take away from the Glory of God being revealed in your life.


Here's a question though. Biblically, is there a precedent or even mandate for us to "protect" our salvation with words and actions in addition to what Christ completed for us?

i would say that the mandate after forgiveness and application of his blood, is to do our best to obey him and live for him, dat is what i tink

[DividedThigh]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Yeah you are.

timmy