New York Car Bomb

[Walks_in_islam]

Now prax - we get Fox way over here too. BUT: I didnt see anyone yelling from under turbines at the tea rallies. I did see a LOT of angry, yelling middle aged white guys that fit the released description.

The Taliban would take credit for the Kennedy assassination if they could.

Are you maybe saying a group of raggedy pakistani villagers managed to bleach, shave, and dress a suspect to look like someone from an angry tea party rally?

I grew up in the south and saw a lot of "inventions" over the years. I read and saw the description of what they found in the SUV and also noted that they traced it (the SUV) to Texas. Prolly should add "redneck" or "cowhand" or "corn-pone" to "white in the 40's" and an accurate profile is oh-so-surely beginning to take shape.

BREAKING news (that we already know):

Kelly said officers were on the way to a Pennsylvania town to talk to a tourist who might have recorded the suspect on his video camera. The video shows a white man in his 40s taking off one shirt, revealing another underneath.

The commissioner said there's no evidence that a Pakistani Taliban videotaped claim to the failed car bombing is valid.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

The Pakistani Taliban allegedly posted a one minute, 11 second video, saying the attack is revenge for the death of its leader, Baitullah Mehsud, and the recent slayings of the top leaders of Al Qaeda in Iraq -- Abu Omar al-Baghdadi and Abu Ayyub al-Masri -- who were killed by U.S. and Iraqi troops last month north of Baghdad. The tape makes no specific reference to the attack; it does not mention that it was a car bomb or that it took place in New York City.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Now prax - we get Fox way over here too. BUT: I didnt see anyone yelling from under turbines at the tea rallies. I did see a LOT of angry, yelling middle aged white guys that fit the released description.

Huh? You're not making any sense. I never said anything about tea party and turbines. I agreed that if this guy was white,40s and a male they should be looking for white males, profiling. What I said was that IF the guy was a middle eastern looking guy with a turbine that if they profiled based on that the left would have a heart attack.

The Taliban would take credit for the Kennedy assassination if they could.

So you are saying they were not involved? But if they were would you be alright with profiling Islamics, possibly of pakistani origin?

Are you maybe saying a group of raggedy pakistani villagers managed to bleach, shave, and dress a suspect to look like someone from an angry tea party rally?

No Im saying if this was a white, non Islamic male, 40 years of age I would be FINE with profiling that demographic. BTW white looking people are not all blond looking people. Oh, and yes actually anyone intelligent would know that if you were an Islamic extremist and wanted to NOT look middle eastern, a good shave would help. Not all Muslims are dark skinned either.

Nor was any description tied into being angry or a member of the tea party.

I grew up in the south and saw a lot of "inventions" over the years. I read and saw the description of what they found in the SUV and also noted that they traced it (the SUV) to Texas. Prolly should add "redneck" or "cowhand" or "corn-pone" to "white in the 40's" and an accurate profile is oh-so-surely beginning to take shape.

As I said before, Im fine with profiling white males in this situation. That does not offend me.

BREAKING news (that we already know):

Kelly said officers were on the way to a Pennsylvania town to talk to a tourist who might have recorded the suspect on his video camera. The video shows a white man in his 40s taking off one shirt, revealing another underneath.

The commissioner said there's no evidence that a Pakistani Taliban videotaped claim to the failed car bombing is valid.

Other than their own confession. The question you don't want to address is, IF it turns out this was an attempt by them, should we profile Islamics?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

You know, I did not know that. I will (try) to correct my posts and thank you for the info. The term was selected to poke fun / make reference to tea party participants only and has been redacted.

Yeah, but why even do it? Nobody is poking fun at you or Islamics. It's a serious discussion of American security and questions of profiling. You brought up the issue of the perp being a white male and I said I was fine with profiling white males or anyone that fits the perps description. What I offered was that if it turns out the suspect was an Islamic extremist we would not be able to profile them...because they would be so offended, the left would be screaming..and you kind of proved my point by your responses.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Probably. But they didn't mention a turbine in the description SO I guess what the ACLU would do or not do at this point is probably speculative.

SO: Help me understand something. What in the world does profiling of turbine-wearing middle eastern people have to do with something that a clothes-shedding tea<redacted> was seen running from? Diversion?

Your attempt to link the alleged suspect to the Tea Party movement is even more of a stretch than anything else that has been said so far. Why would you link a violent act such as this to the Tea Party which has staged scores of peaceful protests involving millions of Americans of all races and colors?

In fact, the only violence we've seen surrounding the Tea Party stuff has been when goons from the Democrat Party have targeted your "Tea[redacted]."

For example:



The Taliban at least wants to be associated with the New York bombing.

At the same time this bomb in Times Square was sizzling and popping, a large and well publicized "Immigrants Rights" rally was being held a few miles straight down Broadway at Union Square.

If the bombers were your suspected "red necks" looking to "settle a score" or "put the hurt" to their perceived political foes, then they weren't watching Fox News all week. Fox covered the Union Square Pro-Immigrant rally and its build up all week.

And concerning the "race" of "Islamic extremists" in America consider those who have been actually identified as such and arrested or had warrants issued recently:

[Sam]

This perpetrator was probably just another white Conservative Christian.
You know, one of those ignorant yokels who takes comfort in his God and in his guns.

[pelathais]

A bomb in Times Square on May Day when a large Pro-Illegal Immigration rally is being held just a few miles away? The bombers appear to have been careful to avoid those who would be "celebrating" May Day.

A suspicious explosion on Earth Day sinks a large oil exploration platform at a time when even the Obama Administration is looking to open up off shore oil drilling in the Gulf.

If I could just find my tin foil hat I'd be almost convinced that the radical Left is recooking Professor Ward Churchill's old bomb making formula that was used by so many of the President's supporters when they were in college back in the 1960's.

*** Disclaimer: Ward Churchill did take credit for teaching bomb making to the Weatherman Underground but that claim may be as tenuous as the Taliban claims concerning yesterday's NYC bomb incident.

[CC1]

I will be curious to see what the investigation reveals. I had a feeling from the start this might be some kind of domestic terrorism like the Federal building in OK.

I think Al Queda would make a more sophesticated bomb with all of their expertise in doing it around the world than what this appears to be.

Of course it could be some independent Al Queda symphathyzer who learned how to make the bomb from the internet rather than any real training.

We will know soon.

notofworks, just curious why you "loved it" when witnesses saw a 40ish white guy leaving the SUV? Whether this instance proves to be Islamic terrorism or not I have no doubt that Al Queda is recruiting and training white people and that will be the next wave of foot soldiers. The last muslim that tried to blow up that airplane said as much.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by CC1

I will be curious to see what the investigation reveals. I had a feeling from the start this might be some kind of domestic terrorism like the Federal building in OK.

I think Al Queda would make a more sophesticated bomb with all of their expertise in doing it around the world than what this appears to be.

Of course it could be some independent Al Queda symphathyzer who learned how to make the bomb from the internet rather than any real training.

We will know soon.

notofworks, just curious why you "loved it" when witnesses saw a 40ish white guy leaving the SUV? Whether this instance proves to be Islamic terrorism or not I have no doubt that Al Queda is recruiting and training white people and that will be the next wave of foot soldiers. The last muslim that tried to blow up that airplane said as much.

I don't want anyone to give a detailed answer... but what sort of an idiot makes a "bomb" out of commercial firecrackers "like the ones you can buy in Pennsylvania?" Using that to detonate propane tanks sounds like it came from the same lab as "the shoe bomb" and the "underwear bombs." Those were two other things that went "fizz" instead of "boom!"

One lone home grown nut like McVeigh knew enough to launch a Ryder truck axle into low orbit. This NYC thing doesn't look like his style or his crony sympathizers.

It seems that because this thing makes no rational sense many folks want to blame it on "red necks." But I can't get over the fact that the car bomb was
parked so close to Fox News. The dinks who wants to put the blame on the "angry Right" apparently haven't looked at the scene.

And why would any American deliberately target the crowd outside a production of the Lion King? I can see a Ritalin crazed ex-Disney exec like Michael Eisner... maybe.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by pelathais

I don't want anyone to give a detailed answer... but what sort of an idiot makes a "bomb" out of commercial firecrackers "like the ones you can buy in Pennsylvania?" Using that to detonate propane tanks sounds like it came from the same lab as "the shoe bomb" and the "underwear bombs." Those were two other things that went "fizz" instead of "boom!"

One lone home grown nut like McVeigh knew enough to launch a Ryder truck axle into low orbit. This NYC thing doesn't look like his style or his crony sympathizers.

It seems that because this thing makes no rational sense many folks want to blame it on "red necks." But I can't get over the fact that the car bomb was
parked so close to Fox News. The dinks who wants to put the blame on the "angry Right" apparently haven't looked at the scene.

And why would any American deliberately target the crowd outside a production of the Lion King? I can see a Ritalin crazed ex-Disney exec like Michael Eisner... maybe.

I would have a lot more confidence in the investigation if Rudy were still Mayor.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

As I said, they WILL profile a white male or a teabag party person or whatever, but when it comes to profiling anyone else the liberals have a heart attack. BTW the term teabagger is a reference to a homosexual act, please don't use it here

No... but either way it still should not be referenced here