Worship Casualties: Who speaks for the injured? - Page 2

Praxeas · #11 06-04-2010, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

I never said that!!!! You must have modified my quote... Why are you trying to frame me???? jkjkjk

Hey, that's not SteppingStone!

Sherri · #12 06-04-2010, 09:27 PM

I've seen people fall and sprain ankles, get bloody noses, get bleeding cuts across the face, get a food spiked by a stiletto heel, etc. Somehow I just don't think God gets glory out of those things. But probably the person worshipping was totally sincere. I just think it makes sense to dance with your eyes open!! There's no Biblical mandate against that.

SeekingOne · #13 06-04-2010, 09:37 PM

How about services where people go to the front and "fall down?" I have attended all kinds of churches that have wild radical worship. It is interesting that those that believe people should be "slain in the Spirit" have people that do that. Those that don't have "catchers" don't have people falling down. Hmmmmm All of them had the same doctrinal beliefs, people dancing, speaking in tongues etc.

One church I attended for a special program must have had a visitor that believed in being "slain in the Spirit" because when she went down to the front to be prayed for, she fell down when the pastor got to her. Sad thing was, nobody was there to catch her and she ended up with a head and neck injury. I wonder why God would "slay" her when He knew she didn't have anyone to catch her?

Jack Shephard · #14 06-04-2010, 10:15 PM

I saw this one year at the ALJC Youth Convention. A young lady was standing but bent at waist, face facing the floor, in trivail. Another person, maybe a good 6 inches taller was bent over here and that person was in trivail too. Both oblivious to the other. Well the girl started into a wild comache indian dance or something and snapped her head up right into the face of the taller person. A bloody mouth and nose by one and gash in the head of the other with a bloody hair do they both kept praising. It was the weirdest thing I have seen in worship I believe.

notofworks · #15 06-04-2010, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie

Thanks NOW. I forgot - we have hashed this in the past.

But it deserves to be rehashed. This whole issue is a sad, sad statement of the genre of "worship" that is completely out of control and completely inexcusable. Nearly all of it....maybe ALL....is a result of a system which glorifies people who are doing nothing more than drawing attention to themselves.

I didn't mean to post the other thread as "We've already done this" but as a resource for how many stories there are....and there are lots.

notofworks · #16 06-04-2010, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

I saw this one year at the ALJC Youth Convention. A young lady was standing but bent at waist, face facing the floor, in trivail. Another person, maybe a good 6 inches taller was bent over here and that person was in trivail too. Both oblivious to the other. Well the girl started into a wild comache indian dance or something and snapped her head up right into the face of the taller person. A bloody mouth and nose by one and gash in the head of the other with a bloody hair do they both kept praising. It was the weirdest thing I have seen in worship I believe.

Your new hairdo is cool.

Jack Shephard · #17 06-04-2010, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

Your new hairdo is cool.

Thanks. I honor this man as a musical messiah. He is awesome!

Oh yeah, I like the new hat!

pelathais · #18 06-04-2010, 11:08 PM

I got a split lip at a camp meeting service once. The back of one guy's head was thrown into my face. Painful and embarrassing because it meant that despite my sincerity and my courage in coming forward to the mosh pit, I was not "in the Spirit" and thus none of my prayers were heard.

What gets me is that those who try and avoid the dangerous crazies are the ones who are ridiculed and chastened from the pulpit. I once picked up one woman's baby and car seat to rescue the infant from the crushing advance of of a dancing fat lady. After that burst of enthusiasm had settled, the pastor called me out and rebuked me saying, "I remember when you used to get excited..." Thing is, I never would leave a baby on the floor nor would I ever "loose track" of where I was. I never acted like that.

I learned early on that you can't win these arguments "in church." A forum may allow a bit of space to express wonder at some rather idiotic things, but so much of Pentecostalism developed particularly around justifying crazy "worship" antics that this will probably always be with us.

I was at one church - a National landmark now, where the pews had been ripped from the floors so many times that they were pretty much just set up like folding chairs. The flooring was so badly damaged from years of abuse/repair/abuse that the pews could no longer be bolted down. No one saw this as being a problem.

pelathais · #19 06-04-2010, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Thanks. I honor this man as a musical messiah. He is awesome!

Oh yeah, I like the new hat!

I remember the "shameful" way he was running around during the half time show of the 2002 Super Bowl.

RandyWayne · #20 06-05-2010, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

But it deserves to be rehashed. This whole issue is a sad, sad statement of the genre of "worship" that is completely out of control and completely inexcusable. Nearly all of it....maybe ALL....is a result of a system which glorifies people who are doing nothing more than drawing attention to themselves.

I didn't mean to post the other thread as "We've already done this" but as a resource for how many stories there are....and there are lots.

I keep saying it is nothing more then the (un)official Apostolic mating ritual. "Look at how I worship! I can sire many healthy children for you!"