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Old 07-01-2010, 02:54 PM
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Yes...very much agree..I do not understand how and where people insist that their body will oneday be ressurected..It is very clear,Adam was made from the dust and it would be to the dust He would return why?..Some say because He sinned,but does the scripture teach this?..I do not think so..God told Adam He would return to the dust because..from OUT OF IT thou was taken..
Did Jesus resurrect bodily? Is there a body still in the tomb?
1 John 3:2
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Job 19:26
And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:

Daniel 12:2
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Matthew 27:52-54
52And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

John 5:27-29
27And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
28Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
I do not understand how and where people insist that their body will not one day be ressurected.

Yes, in death we return to the dust. However, through the quickening power of God through Christ Jesus we shall awaken and arise out of that dust in immortality. To deny this is to teach a half truth. And as my mother always said... a half truth is a whole lie.

Also think of the theological implications of the false teaching that there isn't a resurrection. You'll have a bodily resurrected Christ worshipped by disembodied spirits for all eternity. He becomes the Lord of Ghosts. That's flat out flakey.

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Old 07-01-2010, 03:01 PM
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Re: From Dust to Dust

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Did Jesus resurrect bodily? Is there a body still in the tomb?
1 John 3:2
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Job 19:26
And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:

Daniel 12:2
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Matthew 27:52-54
52And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

John 5:27-29
27And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
28Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
I do not understand how and where people insist that their body will not one day be ressurected.

Yes, in death we return to the dust. However, through the quickening power of God through Christ Jesus we shall arise out of that dust in immortality. To deny this is to teach a half truth. And as my mother always said... a half truth is a whole lie.
(I Co 15:39) All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
(I Co 15:40) There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
(I Co 15:41) There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
(I Co 15:42) So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
(I Co 15:43) It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
(I Co 15:44) It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:08 PM
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(I Co 15:39) All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
(I Co 15:40) There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
(I Co 15:41) There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
(I Co 15:42) So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
(I Co 15:43) It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
(I Co 15:44) It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
(I Co 15:39) All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
(I Co 15:40) There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
(I Co 15:41) There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
(I Co 15:42) So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
(I Co 15:43) It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
(I Co 15:44) It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
Just as Christ was raised bodily in incorruption, glory, and power (a spiritual body)... so too will our bodies awaken and arise out of the dust of the earth. Friends... Jesus isn't the Lord of Ghosts. The teaching that there isn't a bodily resurrection is pure foolishness propagated by those who know neither the Scriptures nor the POWER of God. Some just want to latch onto and believe some "new thing". Where are the stable souls that will FIGHT and BELIEVE the Scriptures?

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Old 07-01-2010, 03:15 PM
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(I Co 15:39) All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
(I Co 15:40) There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
(I Co 15:41) There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
(I Co 15:42) So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
(I Co 15:43) It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
(I Co 15:44) It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
Just as Christ was raised bodily in incorruption, glory, and power (a spiritual body)... so too will our bodies awaken and arise out of the dust of the earth. Friends... Jesus isn't the Lord of Ghosts. The teaching that there isn't a bodily resurrection is pure foolishness propagated by those who know neither the Scriptures nor the POWER of God.

(Eph 4:24) And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

(Col 3:10) And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:

(Eph 3:16) That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
(Eph 3:17) That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,

I already have my spiritual body!
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:17 PM
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Paul puts this damnable heresy to rest....
1 Corinthians 15:12-14 (King James Version)
12Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
13But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
14And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
...yet some, claiming there is no resurrection, are trying to resurrect this ancient Neoplatonic heresy.
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:18 PM
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(Eph 4:24) And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

(Col 3:10) And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:

(Eph 3:16) That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
(Eph 3:17) That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,

I already have my spiritual body!
Really?... Jesus could appear in a room with the door closed and locked... can you do that? His glorified body walked through the garden after leaving the tomb. Thomas touched his wounds. And he ascended into glory. Can you do that?

Go jump in front of a moving train... we'll see how spiritual your body is.

This sounds like the teaching of some wacked out cult leader.

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Old 07-01-2010, 03:20 PM
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Paul puts this damnable heresy to rest....
1 Corinthians 15:12-14 (King James Version)
12Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
13But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
14And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
...yet some, claiming there is no resurrection, are trying to resurrect this ancient Neoplatonic heresy.
The resurrection is ongoing! Every time someone comes out of the water in Jesus Name!

(Col 2:12) Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

We are raised from death to life in Christ!
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:22 PM
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The resurrection is ongoing! Every time someone comes out of the water in Jesus Name!

(Col 2:12) Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

We are raised from death to life in Christ!
Are you hard of reading? Jesus arose bodily. So will we. Baptism is a symbol of the resurrection, not the resurrection itself. Water worshippers kill me.
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:25 PM
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Next they'll tell us the bread and wine are the actual body and blood of Jesus!

Water baptism is the symbol of Christ's resurrection, not the resurrection itself.
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:26 PM
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Are you hard of reading? Jesus arose bodily. So will we. Baptism is a symbol of the resurrection, not the resurrection itself. Water worshippers kill me.
What about us is raised from the dead?

The old body? I think not!

The new man, the inner man is raised from the dead to walk in newness of life.

I could give you a complete bible study but I won't do that either.
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