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Old 07-12-2010, 10:20 AM
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Its my belief that most apostolics do not pray for sick people or situations in a true apostolic fashion!!
That is quite an emphatic statement allstate1. I am quite sure that you do not know most Apostolic's; there are millions of us around the world. What would make you say such a thing?
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:22 AM
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That is quite an emphatic statement allstate1. I am quite sure that you do not know most Apostolic's; there are millions of us around the world. What would make you say such a thing?
Leave it to someone to break my statement down! Okay I will rephrase it most apostolics I have heard (it has been hundreds)!!
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:29 AM
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So what do these Apostolics need to do differently in order to pray the 'right' way?
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:31 AM
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So what do these Apostolics need to do differently in order to pray the 'right' way?
Well do you recall reading where the apostles begged and pleaded? Begging and pleading is not apostolic!!
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:34 AM
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Well do you recall reading where the apostles begged and pleaded? Begging and pleading is not apostolic!!
Of course not.

So how does one pray the 'right' way?...I'm dying to know.
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:35 AM
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The Bible dont say If you have the faith as a grain of mustard seed you can beg and plead God to move a mountan!
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:37 AM
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Of course not.

So how does one pray the 'right' way?...I'm dying to know.
And the topic was praying for sickness and situations not your daily commune you have with God!
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:44 AM
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Yea when is the last time you seen that? When is the last time you seen anyone bold enough to command healing instead of the repetitive begging and pleading for God to come down and heal?? The apostles did not beg!
Commanding someone to be healed is not prayer. So please, tell us Apostolics how we pray wrong

BTW I see Apostolics commanding healing all the time. It's a regular practice, but back to your topic...we pray wrong, please help us.
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:50 AM
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Commanding someone to be healed is not prayer. So please, tell us Apostolics how we pray wrong

BTW I see Apostolics commanding healing all the time. It's a regular practice, but back to your topic...we pray wrong, please help us.
I guess I need to hang around you b/c almost 40 years of being in and around UPC I can remember only a handful of times when a minister would command a crippled to rise and walk etc etc... Most of the praying I have witnessed has been the begging type! I am also apostolic so I am considering myself in the group! Also if you notice there is a question mark on the thread title.

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Well do you recall reading where the apostles begged and pleaded? Begging and pleading is not apostolic!!
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Of course not.

So how does one pray the 'right' way?...I'm dying to know.
How many times do we actually see the Apostles pray?

Act 4:29 And now, Lord, look upon their threats and grant to your servants to continue to speak your word with all boldness,
Act 4:30 while you stretch out your hand to heal, and signs and wonders are performed through the name of your holy servant Jesus."

Is that considered begging or pleading?

Oh, not sure what you mean by pleading but would this suffice?

2Co 12:7 So to keep me from being too elated by the surpassing greatness of the revelations, a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to harass me, to keep me from being too elated.
2Co 12:8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord about this, that it should leave me.
2Co 12:9 But he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

Your prayers should be fervent

Jas 5:16 Confess faults to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous one avails much.
Jas 5:17 Elijah was a man of like passion as we are. And he prayed earnestly that it might not rain, and it did not rain on the earth for the time of three years and six months.
Jas 5:18 And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth caused its fruit to sprout.


And if at first you don't succeed, PLEAD!
Luk 18:1 And he told them a parable to the effect that they ought always to pray and not lose heart.
Luk 18:2 He said, "In a certain city there was a judge who neither feared God nor respected man.
Luk 18:3 And there was a widow in that city who kept coming to him and saying, 'Give me justice against my adversary.'
Luk 18:4 For a while he refused, but afterward he said to himself, 'Though I neither fear God nor respect man,
Luk 18:5 yet because this widow keeps bothering me, I will give her justice, so that she will not beat me down by her continual coming.'"
Luk 18:6 And the Lord said, "Hear what the unrighteous judge says.
Luk 18:7 And will not God give justice to his elect, who cry to him day and night? Will he delay long over them?
Luk 18:8 I tell you, he will give justice to them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on earth?"
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