Charismatic Identification Process - Page 2

Mr. Smith · #11 09-20-2010, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

not a very good track record, is it?

The Elijah list publishes prophecies and teaching, also has CD's and literature available, and lists conferences and meetings that are going on. It's probably a modern or online equivalent of the old "Voice of Healing" magazine that Gordon Lindsey started back in the nineteen fifties to promote and report on different evangelists.

Speaking of good ole' Kim, the prophetic piano player (yes, you read that correctly, folks) he yearly gives his predictions, kinda like Jeane Dixon and Pat Robertson. You can look it up online. It is absolutely laughable what he has prophesied, and dang it, people just keep flocking to his events. Doesn't anyone give a hoot if he's accurate? It's really disgusting.

Sam · #12 09-20-2010, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Well with a thousand prophecies a year that mean that at 20% is 200 correct ones per year....that is a lot of accuarcy.

He said 20 correct prophecies out of a thousand given, not 20 percent correct.

Cindy · #13 09-20-2010, 10:31 PM

1. No clue who that is.
2. No.
3. No.
4. No.
5. No.
6. No.

Jack Shephard · #14 09-20-2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

He said 20 correct prophecies out of a thousand given, not 20 percent correct.

I know. I am grading him on a generous curve.

Cindy · #15 09-20-2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Speaking of good ole' Kim, the prophetic piano player (yes, you read that correctly, folks) he yearly gives his predictions, kinda like Jeane Dixon and Pat Robertson. You can look it up online. It is absolutely laughable what he has prophesied, and dang it, people just keep flocking to his events. Doesn't anyone give a hoot if he's accurate? It's really disgusting.

Does he look like Liberace?

Jack Shephard · #16 09-20-2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy

Does he look like Liberace?

Nope, but he has LONG hair...and it is not shameful.

Sam · #17 09-20-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy

Does he look like Liberace?

who knows what Liberace looks like?
He's been dead for years now.

Mr. Smith · #18 09-20-2010, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

who knows what Liberace looks like?
He's been dead for years now.

I would post a picture of a skeleton but that would be in bad taste, huh?

Mr. Smith · #19 09-20-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy

Does he look like Liberace?

Here's the dude.

Sam · #20 09-20-2010, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Here's the dude.

Kim Clement is considered by many to be a prophet.

There are a couple of options we may take for that.

We can be like the cessationists and like I was taught in a UPC Bible School 50 some years ago and say that there are no prophets today and have not been since the first century.

Or we can say that the only real prophets today would be Oneness Pentecostal three-steppers with UPC cards in their wallets and who are current with their signing the Affirmation Statement and with sending in their dues and fees.

Or we can acknowledge that there can be prophets to day and we might not see eye to eye with them on all things. If so, we have to apply a few Scriptural tests:

1 Thessalonians 5:19-21 applies here.
19 Do not stifle the Holy Spirit. 20 Do not scoff at prophecies, 21 but test everything that is said. Hold on to what is good.

So does Isaiah 8:20
To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

And so does Jeremiah 5:13
The prophets have become wind (or windbags) and my Word is not in them.

In other words, judge everything by the written Word and by allowing some time to see if it really happens.