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Old 11-12-2010, 01:53 PM
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Paul says we will judge angels in the world to come and also not to take church matters to civil court. How do we judge someone who is physically disabled and unable to engage in physical intimacy? Is pornagraphy acceptable for a physically disabled person? I personally would not condemn such a person.

I wouldn't condemn him if he's not disabled.

But mostly, I agree with the guy that said, "Huh?"
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DM - - you like to stir things up don't you? LOL!

From what I understand, the danger of pornography is the addiction. It's like a drug.
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Old 11-12-2010, 02:01 PM
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DM - - you like to stir things up don't you? LOL!

From what I understand, the danger of pornography is the addiction. It's like a drug.
We have a winner. It has influence over endorphins.

With pornography addiction, there is a change in the brain's chemistry (dopamine, norepinephrine, oxytocin and serotonin) when pornography is viewed.

In the New Testament, sorcery is the english word for the greek Pharmacaea. It refers activity that changes ones thoughts.
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We have a winner. It has influence over endorphins.

With pornography addiction, there is a change in the brain's chemistry (dopamine, norepinephrine, oxytocin and serotonin) when pornography is viewed.

In the New Testament, sorcery is the english word for the greek Pharmacaea. It refers activity that changes ones thoughts.
Coadie, doesn't this same effect happen in the brain when a man looks at his wife unclothed and/or engages in love play with her? I've always thought being stimulated and finding release is the same biologically regardless as to if it is with your wife, with another female who isn't your wife, by yourself, or observing erotic material. Biologically, isn't it the same?

Now, I know morally speaking there are differences. I'm speaking biologically. Because there was a time when I'd look at something erotic about once a week. However, after getting married I was looking at my wife and having relations with her sometimes two times a day three or more days a week. What would be the difference biologically speaking?
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DM, the only thing that came to my mind when I read this was what kind of mental hoops did you have to jump thru to come up with this question?

Sin entered the world thru lust (2 Peter 1:4) bubba. Lust is the gateway to all sin an pornography is the gateway to sexual lust.

Sex and intamacy are God ordained things but only in the proper context.

Mark 4: 18And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,

19And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.


I have great compassion for folks who suffer as you state here but it would not lead me to lead them into something that will choke the word out of their life.

peace my friend.

I agree with Cindy though. I am not in the business of condemnation. I do think we have a duty to shine the light of Truth in dark places... with love, kindness and gentleness...always offering peace.
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Paul says we will judge angels in the world to come and also not to take church matters to civil court. How do we judge someone who is physically disabled and unable to engage in physical intimacy? Is pornagraphy acceptable for a physically disabled person? I personally would not condemn such a person.
This is a difficult question to deal with, Paul also says that if a man can not contain himself he should marry.

Can the disabled person not find someone that needs a friend and be a friend, etc. To marry, I mean?
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DM, the only thing that came to my mind when I read this was what kind of mental hoops did you have to jump thru to come up with this question?

Sin entered the world thru lust (2 Peter 1:4) bubba. Lust is the gateway to all sin an pornography is the gateway to sexual lust.

Sex and intamacy are God ordained things but only in the proper context.

Mark 4: 18And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,

19And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.


I have great compassion for folks who suffer as you state here but it would not lead me to lead them into something that will choke the word out of their life.

peace my friend.

I agree with Cindy though. I am not in the business of condemnation. I do think we have a duty to shine the light of Truth in dark places... with love, kindness and gentleness...always offering peace.
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DM, the only thing that came to my mind when I read this was what kind of mental hoops did you have to jump thru to come up with this question?

Sin entered the world thru lust (2 Peter 1:4) bubba. Lust is the gateway to all sin an pornography is the gateway to sexual lust.

Sex and intamacy are God ordained things but only in the proper context.

Mark 4: 18And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,

19And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.


I have great compassion for folks who suffer as you state here but it would not lead me to lead them into something that will choke the word out of their life.

peace my friend.

I agree with Cindy though. I am not in the business of condemnation. I do think we have a duty to shine the light of Truth in dark places... with love, kindness and gentleness...always offering peace.
Do you feel the same about masturbation in general? Divorced or widowed adults? BTW, not sure the word "lust" in your text is tied to what we are talking about. It's the general word for "desire"... KJV for you.
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We have a winner. It has influence over endorphins.

With pornography addiction, there is a change in the brain's chemistry (dopamine, norepinephrine, oxytocin and serotonin) when pornography is viewed.

In the New Testament, sorcery is the english word for the greek Pharmacaea. It refers activity that changes ones thoughts.
I agree with Aquila that your argumentation here is not correct. Endorphins are not the gauge for what is right or wrong, helpful or harmful.

And your breakdown of the word "Pharmacaea" is irrelevant.
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Coadie, doesn't this same effect happen in the brain when a man looks at his wife unclothed and/or engages in love play with her? I've always thought being stimulated and finding release is the same biologically regardless as to if it is with your wife, with another female who isn't your wife, by yourself, or observing erotic material. Biologically, isn't it the same?

Now, I know morally speaking there are differences. I'm speaking biologically. Because there was a time when I'd look at something erotic about once a week. However, after getting married I was looking at my wife and having relations with her sometimes two times a day three or more days a week. What would be the difference biologically speaking?
Are you telling me you went from porn addict to no porn and lots of sex with wife just like that? That doesn't fit the normal cycle of cases I've been involved with. Porn addictions are not about lack of sex most often. This is why guys with beautiful wives who are always willing surprise us by having an affair with a toothless whore for $20. Go figure!
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