Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to die - Page 2

Twisp · #11 12-01-2010, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

My goodness, this is SO painful to read. I attempt to put myself, mentally, into his shoes and even for just a moment, the thought is too much to bear. Regardless of any theological views of suicide, it's hard not to support his desires. I can't say mine would be any different.

That was my first thought, just of how painful this story is.

Azzan · #12 12-01-2010, 08:54 AM

I often wondered what my mother thought when she was in a similar state after a medical procedure. She was totally paralized on her right side, blind, had a 3 word vocabulary and was totally dependent upon others in order to survive. She was aware of her surroundings but was basically trapped in her body, unable to really communicate anything beyond her basic needs: hungry, thirsty, etc. The only way to communicate with her was to ask her simple yes/no questions.

Many times before the incident she stated that she did not want to be in such a situation like that. But she lived 10 years in that condition. It was horrible for everyone involved.

Cindy · #13 12-01-2010, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisp

The Supreme Court, for starters. One could also argue it is an inherent right for all humans, just as we have a right to live.

I thought the laws varied from state to state. It must be so horrible to be in a situation like that. Bless his heart.

RandyWayne · #14 12-01-2010, 09:21 AM

I can't imagine not making the same decision if I was in his place. I feel like standing up and jogging around the block, being thankful for my working legs, after reading that story.

coadie · #15 12-01-2010, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisp

There are several different methods the courts use to decide competency. Given your "education", I am sure you are familiar with the methods used to decide it.

I believe in God. God is the Almighty. I reject the libertarian phonies that say people are their own gods and have every right from ordering nurses to support their suicide to gay marriage and drug abuse.

Libertarians like your self want to bully hospitals and docs and make medical things be controlled and ruled by the political world.

Libertarians also claim they can solve problems and problems like this are too big for God to solve.

We need to keep lawyers and judges away from medical patients.

sandie · #16 12-01-2010, 09:26 AM

God used a young man in a vegatative state to bring me to Him.
I thought that the young man was automatically heaven bound because of the situation he was in.
A friend of mine told me it would matter what condition his soul was in before the accident....this was a huge revelation to a Jewish girl who had no idea what Christianity really taught.

Whatever the end result is with this man, I pray his soul is prepared.

notofworks · #17 12-01-2010, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Azzan

I often wondered what my mother thought when she was in a similar state after a medical procedure. She was totally paralized on her right side, blind, had a 3 word vocabulary and was totally dependent upon others in order to survive. She was aware of her surroundings but was basically trapped in her body, unable to really communicate anything beyond her basic needs: hungry, thirsty, etc. The only way to communicate with her was to ask her simple yes/no questions.

Many times before the incident she stated that she did not want to be in such a situation like that. But she lived 10 years in that condition. It was horrible for everyone involved.

I'll never forget visiting a friend of our family's who had been a very strong pastor and personality. He was shriveled up in a wheelchair, eyepatch, no vocabulary, no control over saliva.....it's been 25 years and that imagery won't go away. He was only in his 50's but the stroke had instantly taken everything from him. Even the most positive of thinkers would struggle with this. I've never been a "Why God?" type of guy, but remembering those moments with him gets me pretty close to asking.

notofworks · #18 12-01-2010, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie

I believe in God. God is the Almighty. I reject the libertarian phonies that say people are their own gods and have every right from ordering nurses to support their suicide to gay marriage and drug abuse.

Libertarians like your self want to bully hospitals and docs and make medical things be controlled and ruled by the political world.

Libertarians also claim they can solve problems and problems like this are too big for God to solve.

We need to keep lawyers and judges away from medical patients.

If saying something completely against AFF rules would cause you to reciprocate and then get us both banned, I'd be willing to take the fall just to get you to shut up. So how 'bout it....if I say something horrible to you, will you return like you did recently with DA? I haven't posted much lately anyway and I'll just happily take the week off. Deal?

Pressing-On · #19 12-01-2010, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

I'll never forget visiting a friend of our family's who had been a very strong pastor and personality. He was shriveled up in a wheelchair, eyepatch, no vocabulary, no control over saliva.....it's been 25 years and that imagery won't go away. He was only in his 50's but the stroke had instantly taken everything from him. Even the most positive of thinkers would struggle with this. I've never been a "Why God?" type of guy, but remembering those moments with him gets me pretty close to asking.

My daughter was just asking me, this morning, what was so great about Job getting everything back when he lost his children. "You can't replace your children." She wanted to know why God would do that to someone. That's a "Why God?" question for you! I have no idea.

notofworks · #20 12-01-2010, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sandie

God used a young man in a vegatative state to bring me to Him.
I thought that the young man was automatically heaven bound because of the situation he was in.
A friend of mine told me it would matter what condition his soul was in before the accident....this was a huge revelation to a Jewish girl who had no idea what Christianity really taught.

Whatever the end result is with this man, I pray his soul is prepared.

Or then again, it could just be up to God to show mercy on whom He will show mercy.

For God said to Moses, "I will show mercy to anyone I choose, and I will show compassion to anyone I choose." So receiving God's promise is not up to us. We can't get it by choosing it or working hard for it. God will show mercy to anyone he chooses. (Romans 9:15-16)