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aegsm76 · #11 01-31-2011, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Seascapes

Who in the world are "they"? I think "they" have things backward, "they" must have got the saying from the Democrat headquarters back in the 60's. The only ones that I have heard to say, "let them starve" has come from the mouth of a republican.

SS - care to give a source for your "let them starve" quote? Who, when, where?
I actually did a web search for it and could not find it.

Seascapes · #12 01-31-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by coadie

Abortion is the crown jewel of Dems. They don't like people, pretend to like people and try to prevent people from joining us..

coadie, where is your friend sandie? That is her topic "abortion". Do you think that only democrats have abortions? If you took a poll, you would probably find out that more republicans benefit from the legalized abortions.

canam · #13 01-31-2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Seascapes

Who in the world are "they"? I think "they" have things backward, "they" must have got the saying from the Democrat headquarters back in the 60's. The only ones that I have heard to say, "let them starve" has come from the mouth of a republican.

They meaning its an old saying, of course you wouldnt know that.so which is it are you heartless or brainless.

Esther · #14 01-31-2011, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Seascapes

coadie, where is your friend sandie? That is her topic "abortion". Do you think that only democrats have abortions? If you took a poll, you would probably find out that more republicans benefit from the legalized abortions.

Both side HAVE abortions, that is not the issue, the issue is Democrats PROMOTE the right to abortions. But I suppose you are okay with that.

aegsm76 · #15 01-31-2011, 08:52 PM

SS - you are very good at ignoring my posts when you cannot answer them.
Please give me a source for your "let them starve" quote.
In all your posts, I have not seen that you are dishonest.
Misguided and ill-informed, maybe, but not blantently dishonest.
Please help.
Thanks.

coadie · #16 01-31-2011, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Seascapes

coadie, where is your friend sandie? That is her topic "abortion". Do you think that only democrats have abortions? If you took a poll, you would probably find out that more republicans benefit from the legalized abortions.

Republicans are prolife. Dems are pro abortion.

If you want to be honest, "If" abortionists can't ask party affilitaion nor can they report it. It is confidential. 1/3 of abortions are black babies. Figgure it out. THey are not Republicans.

Seascapes · #17 02-01-2011, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by aegsm76

SS - you are very good at ignoring my posts when you cannot answer them. Please give me a source for your "let them starve" quote. In all your posts, I have not seen that you are dishonest.
Misguided and ill-informed, maybe, but not blantently dishonest. Please help.
Thanks.

aegsm76...I will get back with you of who said "let them starve". My mother lives next door to me, and she was watching the news, it was a republican tea party person that was being interviewed. I will have to ask her, she was shocked that anyone would say such....this was in the last couple of weeks.

coadie said "If you want to be honest, "If" abortionists can't ask party affilitaion nor can they report it. It is confidential. 1/3 of abortions are black babies. Figgure it out. THey are not Republicans."

In 2006, 846,181 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. This total presents a 3% increase from the 820,151 abortions reported for 2005. The abortion rate for 2006 was 16.1 legal induced abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years. This also represents a 3% increase from 2005. The abortion ratio was 236 legal induced abortions per 1,000 live births in 2006. This represents no change from 2005. During the previous decade (1997–2006), reported abortion numbers, rates, and ratios decreased 5.7%, 8.8%, and 14.8%, respectively; most of these declines occurred before 2001. During the previous decade (1997–2006), women aged 20–29 years accounted for the majority of abortions (57%). Also a higher number of abortions were obtained by white women and unmarried women. The majority (62.0%) of abortions in 2006 were performed at ≤8 weeks' gestation.

coadie this is the website where I got this info:
http://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealt...tats/index.htm

By the way coadie, I know someone that did get an abortion, they had to pay cash before they saw the doctor. Not too many poor black folks has that kind of money. You need to re-think your stats.

coadie · #18 02-01-2011, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Seascapes

aegsm76...I will get back with you of who said "let them starve". My mother lives next door to me, and she was watching the news, it was a republican tea party person that was being interviewed. I will have to ask her, she was shocked that anyone would say such....this was in the last couple of weeks.

coadie said "If you want to be honest, "If" abortionists can't ask party affilitaion nor can they report it. It is confidential. 1/3 of abortions are black babies. Figgure it out. THey are not Republicans."

In 2006, 846,181 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. This total presents a 3% increase from the 820,151 abortions reported for 2005. The abortion rate for 2006 was 16.1 legal induced abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years. This also represents a 3% increase from 2005. The abortion ratio was 236 legal induced abortions per 1,000 live births in 2006. This represents no change from 2005. During the previous decade (1997–2006), reported abortion numbers, rates, and ratios decreased 5.7%, 8.8%, and 14.8%, respectively; most of these declines occurred before 2001. During the previous decade (1997–2006), women aged 20–29 years accounted for the majority of abortions (57%). Also a higher number of abortions were obtained by white women and unmarried women. The majority (62.0%) of abortions in 2006 were performed at ≤8 weeks' gestation.

coadie this is the website where I got this info:
http://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealt...tats/index.htm

By the way coadie, I know someone that did get an abortion, they had to pay cash before they saw the doctor. Not too many poor black folks has that kind of money. You need to re-think your stats.

A highly significant 1993 Howard University study showed that African American women over age 50 were 4.7 times more likely to get breast cancer if they had had any abortions compared to women who had not had any abortions.

Minority women constitute only about 13% of the female population (age 15-44) in the United States, but they underwent approximately 36% of the abortions.
According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, black women are more than 5 times as likely as white women to have an abortion

Seascapes · #19 02-01-2011, 11:13 AM

Esther said, "Both side HAVE abortions, that is not the issue, the issue is Democrats PROMOTE the right to abortions. But I suppose you are okay with that."

No Esther, I am not OK with that. I will never have an abortion, and I will beg any pregnant woman that wants an abortion, to give the baby to me....but then there are some cases that a woman's life is in danger, and the way that it was conceived, that she does not want to go through with taking a chance of losing her life, to have a baby that was conceived by rape. Maybe her husband didn't want to lose her and the baby. There are so many reasons, and if a woman chooses one of them, it should be her choice. We all have to make choices everyday, and there are consequences that goes with our choices.

I remember a time when abortions were not legal, it was a sad time to see full term babies throwed out of dorm windows, in trash cans dead from the cold, or killed by the mother. I don't want to see those images again on the news. The abortion laws that is upheld by the democrats are for the reasons that I have stated above, not for a method of birth control. When laws are made, there are always those who abuse the laws. I do not believe in abortions for birth control, but if it were of one of the circumstances metioned above, I would hope she would have a choice. If a woman wants an abortion and has the money, she can get one, whether it is legal or not legal, either in a sterile clinic or a back alley.

Seascapes · #20 02-01-2011, 11:22 AM

coadie said, "A highly significant 1993 Howard University study showed that African American women over age 50 were 4.7 times more likely to get breast cancer if they had had any abortions compared to women who had not had any abortions. Minority women constitute only about 13% of the female population (age 15-44) in the United States, but they underwent approximately 36% of the abortions. According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, black women are more than 5 times as likely as white women to have an abortion

Now coadie, are we talking about breast cancer or abortions, which stats are you going to believe "The Alan Guttmacher Institute" or "The CDC.gov website".Who in the world is Alan Guttmacher? The CDC has reports from the abortion clinics to compile their info. Did you check out the site? There are tables that shows black, white, hispanic etc.