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02-10-2011, 10:12 PM
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Re: Salvation is a Who, Not a What
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
The word, salvation, has more than one meaning. The Greek has more than one word for salvation as well. Maybe you should check those out before becoming dogmatic about it.
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Miz???? 
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Was he being dogmatic?
Is pointing the sum total of salvation to Jesus alone really "dogmatic," or if it were, is that incorrect or in error? Is He Salvation or isn't He?
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02-10-2011, 10:46 PM
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Re: Salvation is a Who, Not a What
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Salvation is in Jesus Christ. I feel it's God's will for all to repent,be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and become Spirit Filled and then live a life of submission to The Lordship of Christ,but yes salvation is in Jesus Christ. And the plan is in the man.
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Good description of the truth Scott. If we dont believe his words were are not really believing in him. Many accept Jesus and they think of perhaps his physical presence.
In truth we dont accept him unless we accept what he says.
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02-10-2011, 11:42 PM
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Re: Salvation is a Who, Not a What
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Good description of the truth Scott. If we dont believe his words were are not really believing in him. Many accept Jesus and they think of perhaps his physical presence.
In truth we dont accept him unless we accept what he says.
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Amen
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. John 5:24
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02-10-2011, 11:45 PM
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Re: Salvation is a Who, Not a What
At the same time Salvation is a state or quality of being we want to achieve. By means of WHO, Jesus Christ. He is our Savior. He is our Hope
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-11-2011, 01:00 AM
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Re: Salvation is a Who, Not a What
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At the same time Salvation is a state or quality of being we want to achieve. By means of WHO, Jesus Christ. He is our Savior. He is our Hope
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And it's a state or quality of being (true "being") already achieved by Jesus Christ, that we are offered into by faith.
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02-11-2011, 01:51 AM
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Re: Salvation is a Who, Not a What
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And it's a state or quality of being (true "being") already achieved by Jesus Christ, that we are offered into by faith.
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Exactly and I think the thing is we look to Jesus "Our salvation" in order to be like Him when some day we will literally see Him as He is
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-11-2011, 10:23 AM
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Re: Salvation is a Who, Not a What
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Miz????
(sorry, couldn't resist)
Was he being dogmatic?
Is pointing the sum total of salvation to Jesus alone really "dogmatic," or if it were, is that incorrect or in error? Is He Salvation or isn't He? |
This is the statement I had issue with, "Too many think of salvation as a commodity, an achievement, an event, a happening. In reality salvation is Jesus Christ. Jesus means "Jehovah, My Salvation". His name was to be called "Jesus, for HE shall save His people from their sins"."
There are indeed verses in which the word, salvation, points directly at Jesus but others do not. I think Deacon was being as dogmatic from his point of view of "who" salvation is as those who use the word, salvation, exclusively for an event or a happening.
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