The Slippery Emergent Slope

[Socialite]

Ha... this topic has blew up the social networking sites today. Rebukes publicly by John Piper, Gospel Coalition and Driscoll.

Makes me actually feel sorry for Crakjak. As much as I think Universalism is not biblically accurate, I do not believe how one views final states a matter of Gospel. At least I don't think so. Many are ignorantly grouping Unitarianism and Universalism together (probably because they both believe that the end of man either way is the same) -- but Unitarianism does not preach Christ exclusively.

[Socialite]

Admin: Can you make the title: Slippery Slope: Rob Bell now a Universalist?

[Michael The Disciple]

Who is Rob Bell?

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Who is Rob Bell?

One of the most gifted writers and communicators of our generation... and just so happens to be one of the front runners that took criticism during to the so-called Emerging Church nonsense. Not a theological heavyweight, but someone who communicates the Message creatively, and in a way that makes people think.

In your view, a wretched apostate headed for a very hot hell

[Pastor Keith]

For once, we have a actual test case proving the slipperly slope that all the conservatives believed about the emergent group.

Sad, I actually like Rob and some of his stuff. The remedy, You can't go wrong with the main and plain.

I think Guys like Bell go to an extreme representing the Priestly side of ministry (human towards God) while negating the Prophetic (God's word towards man).

I hope that God has a wide mercy, but I can only reflect what God says in His Word.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Socialite

http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/...ments#comments

I stopped reading the article when the author drew conclusions while admitting he hasn't read the entire book. But I did watch the video and he didn't say anything that didn't make sense. I would be lying if I said I haven't struggled with the idea that God created mankind only to send nearly all of them, percentage-wise, to hell.

So in this video, he doesn't mess me up any, really. Is it "Universalism" to speculate about the eternity of the billions around the world who do not believe in Jesus as God? How many in this world have "trusted Christ" as traditional Christian faith calls for? If we exclude Catholics, the number gets pretty small compared to the number that populate the earth.

Is it really God's plan to send, maybe, 80+% of the earth to hell? I struggle with that.

So Bell asks some important questions in this clip and I think they deserve, at least, some introspection and not just quick condemnation from the conservative theology crowd who haven't yet read the book.

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by notofworks

I stopped reading the article when the author drew conclusions while admitting he hasn't read the entire book. But I did watch the video and he didn't say anything that didn't make sense. I would be lying if I said I haven't struggled with the idea that God created mankind only to send nearly all of them, percentage-wise, to hell.

So in this video, he doesn't mess me up any, really. Is it "Universalism" to speculate about the eternity of the billions around the world who do not believe in Jesus as God? How many in this world have "trusted Christ" as traditional Christian faith calls for? If we exclude Catholics, the number gets pretty small compared to the number that populate the earth.

Is it really God's plan to send, maybe, 80+% of the earth to hell? I struggle with that.

So Bell asks some important questions in this clip and I think they deserve, at least, some introspection and not just quick condemnation from the conservative theology crowd who haven't yet read the book.

I hope that God saves everyone, but I only know what I see in scripture.

By the way the author read a number of the chapters, just not the entire book.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Pastor Keith

I hope that God saves everyone, but I only know what I see in scripture.

By the way the author read a number of the chapters, just not the entire book.

Yes, I understand the author read a number of the chapters. But he didn't read the whole book and it just seems to be a responsible thing to do before declaring Rob Bell a universalist on the world wide web. What if Bell brings his point to a conclusion in the final chapter and give thoughts that are in line with orthodox Christian faith? Granted, he probably doesn't, but what if?

If we are going to condemn Bell for his possible beliefs here, shouldn't we also condemn all the proponents of the "Light Doctrine", which include a lot of theologians and spiritual leaders of great notoriety, including Billy Graham.

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Yes, I understand the author read a number of the chapters. But he didn't read the whole book and it just seems to be a responsible thing to do before declaring Rob Bell a universalist on the world wide web. What if Bell brings his point to a conclusion in the final chapter and give thoughts that are in line with orthodox Christian faith? Granted, he probably doesn't, but what if?

If we are going to condemn Bell for his possible beliefs here, shouldn't we also condemn all the proponents of the "Light Doctrine", which include a lot of theologians and spiritual leaders of great notoriety, including Billy Graham.

At least with the Light Doctrine there is the requirement of faith in Jesus for Salvation.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by noeticknight

Everybody must be on the Artificial Intelligence Forum tonight.

I thought he just wanted to talk to himself.