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Old 06-08-2011, 12:58 PM
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Re: NASA Scientist "Irresponsible to Say" G Warmin

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Based on the rest of your post, it was clear that you intended to contextualize his statement as a condemning statement towards global warming.

You post the part of his quote calling it irresponsible to blame the weather on global warming, without using the rest of his quote giving his reason why. You then go off into a rant of how global warming is a stupid legend and is a myth.

His entire quote does contradict your point, since it has nothing to do with your point. Your point is that global warming is a scam, his point was not blame weird weather on global warming without knowing for sure.

I would suspect that is why you did not post the link to the USAToday article, since it doesn't back up what you are ranting about.
I didn't post the link because I was reading the article from a newspaper, not online. He may not have been making the point that GW is a scam, but saying that natural or manmade global warming was the cause of La Nina was irresponsible. I don't see how that contradicts the broader point I'm making. These dishonest scientists, celebrities, media types, et al who promote the unprovable theory of MMGW ARE irresponsible when there is any kind of severe weather situation and then blame it on cars, factories, and the USA. They have a liberal bias that taints their ability to be honest. Either they are willingly ignorant and don't dig below the false template that MMGW is a proven fact or they are so ideological driven they are willing to play the game b/c the ends justify the means. Either way its irresponsible.

"We don't know" means just that. Yet so many talking heads, celebrities, politicians and others talk authoritatively on these subjects and in reality they don't know---dont you think that's irresponsible? And they treat people who disagree with them as though they are morons, hicks or religious zealots---isn't that irresponsible?

You're creating a straw man here.
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Old 06-08-2011, 01:01 PM
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Re: NASA Scientist "Irresponsible to Say" G Warmin

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It was definitely warmer in some places than it is now, but NOAA says the 20th and 21st century have been the warmest in history:

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globa.../medieval.html

More fun graphs that hurt my head to look at:

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/pubs/.../ipcc2007.html
Michael Mann, used some trickery in his statistical analysis of the data to produce a hockey stick shaped graph regardless of the input. This was proven in a paper by McKitrick and McIntyer.

In a later study, Mann used sediment samples from Tiljander (Finland) but used the results upside down!

Further, there are other studies like this one :
http://www.ncasi.org/publications/Detail.aspx?id=3025


That provide a very different palio-climate reconstruction. You should read this study. It doesn’t reflect the problematic issues related to strip bark and bristle cone.


Further, the NASA climate organization is headed by James Hansen who is an evangelical preacher for the church of AGW. The man has been arrested multiple times protesting against what he calls “cabon polluters”. Do you really think the scientists that work for him are going to buck his orthodoxy?


There are TONS of brilliant scientists who are NOT warmists. And there are others who are moving from being “true believers” back to the center.


This scientific field is far from settled and it is less settled today than ever.
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Old 06-08-2011, 02:54 PM
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Here is some interesting reading on Bristle Cone Pine's


http://climateaudit101.wikispot.org/...iproxy_studies)


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"If the flawed bristlecone pine series are removed [from MBH98], the hockey stick disappears regardless of how the PCs are calculated and regardless of how many are included. The hockey stick shape is not global, it is a local phenomenon associated with eccentric proxies."
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Old 06-08-2011, 05:39 PM
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Ferd, that's not what Al Gore believes, nor does Sean Penn, Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, Barney Frank, Michael Moore, Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, Joy Behar, Whoopi Goldberg, Hugh Hefner, Rosie O'Donnell, Tom Cruise, Bill Maher, The Kennedys, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Rev. Jesse Jackson, Rev. Al Sharpton, Minister Louis Farrakhan, David Letterman, The Dixie Chicks, Neil Young, Rosanne Barr, Larry King, Charlie Sheen, Martin Sheen, Ed Asner, the cast of Saturday Night Live, the entire workforce of MTV, Congressman Weiner of New York, Mario Cuomo, the editorial staffs of the New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, Chicago Tribune and a few other geniuses and those of superior intellect---which means YOU'RE WRONG!!!
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What about the" chosen one" in the Wh?
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Old 06-08-2011, 10:38 PM
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What about the" chosen one" in the Wh?
I actually do wonder why ANYONE would question "Him" (other than Light and Seascapes who are no doubt having orgasms at the very image of "Him" below).
It's an Obamagasm! <cue the Imperial March theme!>



Or as King Arthur would say, "He's only a model".

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Re: NASA Scientist "Irresponsible to Say" G Warmin

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I actually do wonder why ANYONE would question "Him" (other than Light and Seascapes who are no doubt having orgasms at the very image of "Him" below).
It's an Obamagasm! <cue the Imperial March theme!>



Or as King Arthur would say, "He's only a model".

If you really want to beat the liberals ...beat the Muslims first ....I mean come up with a reason why they are not first and foremost on your should be target list..and i don't mean shedding a single drop of their blood..Joshua and Caleb would stand up and say before this congregation they are bread for us..:
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http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=77539 http://www.theblaze.com/stories/farr...hink-your-are/ the first link is just afte rhe was elected or jsu tbefore ,the second is the latest after "The thrill is gone Baby" and a little music link to follow
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Re: NASA Scientist "Irresponsible to Say" G Warmin

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I think Jon Huntsman had a pretty good quote on global warming:

“I’m not a meteorologist. All I know is 90 percent of the scientists say climate change is occurring. If 90 percent of the oncological community said something was causing cancer we’d listen to them.”
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/06/0...am/#more-41357

Most of the warmist have a carbon tax political agenda. Shoddy science and little data. It always changes. We only have 50 years of sat records.
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http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/06/0...am/#more-41357

Most of the warmist have a carbon tax political agenda. Shoddy science and little data. It always changes. We only have 50 years of sat records.
WHAT? The climate changes???? STOP THE PRESSES!






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