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Old 06-22-2011, 11:25 PM
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics

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Could someone supply me with a list of similarities and differences?
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Pentecostals emphasize the evidence of tongues for the baptism of the Holy Ghost

Charismatics emphasize tongues as one of the 9 gifts only and that anyone can receive any of the gifts

Pentecostals generally too believe in the 9 gifts for church edification but have the peculiar doctrine of the baptism of the Spirit being evidenced by tongues
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Old 06-22-2011, 11:48 PM
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics

Oh. I thought there was going to be, like, a softball game or something. (My money would be on the Charismatics, of course! )
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics

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Pentecostals emphasize the evidence of tongues for the baptism of the Holy Ghost

Charismatics emphasize tongues as one of the 9 gifts only and that anyone can receive any of the gifts

Pentecostals generally too believe in the 9 gifts for church edification but have the peculiar doctrine of the baptism of the Spirit being evidenced by tongues
It is my own experience that most Charismatic Churches also believe the evidence doctrine.
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Old 06-23-2011, 12:16 AM
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It is my own experience that most Charismatic Churches also believe the evidence doctrine.
Then they are not charismatic. Pentecostal refers to the doctrine of tongues being the evidence of the baptism of the Holy Ghost

If some group you claim are charismatic believe the evidence doctrine they they are really Pentecostal, not Charismatic.

The Charismatic renewal movement began long before some Ultra Con UPCer decided to label any pastor that dropped standards as "Charismatic"
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Old 06-23-2011, 03:17 AM
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics

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Then they are not charismatic. Pentecostal refers to the doctrine of tongues being the evidence of the baptism of the Holy Ghost

If some group you claim are charismatic believe the evidence doctrine they they are really Pentecostal, not Charismatic.

The Charismatic renewal movement began long before some Ultra Con UPCer decided to label any pastor that dropped standards as "Charismatic"
I fellowshipped among the Charismatic Movement from 1975-1984. I still will fellowship them to the extent they will fellowship me. I speak from personal experience on the Charismatic Movement. There are various beliefs among them. Some as you say hold tongues is merely one of nine gifts.

Many hold the same doctrine on tongues as Classic Pentecostals but differ on how to receive the baptism. The differences between Pentecostal and Charismatic are indeed becoming smaller.

Other issues have divided the two groups more than whether tongues is the initial evidence in the past. Things such as holiness issues and forms of worship.

I usually count myself as a Charismatic/Pentecostal when these kind of discussions come up.
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Pentecostal music tends to be either hymns, country or gospel. At least in my experience. The Charismatics I believe were inspired to create a more Biblical kind of praise and worship style. I would say that the Pentecostals have started to catch up with the praise and worship music. Even some of the Evangelicals have come on board with it.
The larger churches I've visited (either way) also incorporate black gospel/choir music. The hymn/country gospel, from what I've seen and experienced, is usually in the much smaller churches.
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Old 06-23-2011, 06:49 AM
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics

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Could someone supply me with a list of similarities and differences?
Pentecostals:
Have traditions and standards.

Charismatics:
Few traditions or standards.

Both focus on being obedient to moral law for the most part.
Both believe in the spiritual gifts.

Both, the Pentecostals or the Charismatics, might be Oneness or Trinitarian.

That's my understanding.
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics

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Pentecostals:
Have traditions and standards.

Charismatics:
Few traditions or standards.

Both focus on being obedient to moral law for the most part.
Both believe in the spiritual gifts.

Both, the Pentecostals or the Charismatics, might be Oneness or Trinitarian.

That's my understanding.
I think that pretty much sums it up, not that traditions and standards are viewed as something to be shunned by one group more than the other, just that Charismatics tend to exist outside long-standing denominational structures.
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics

There were tongues and interpretation last night at my church.

One thing that stood out right away was that the person who spoke in tongues was the one who gave the interpretation.


It has been my experience in the past that whenever someone spoke in tongues (in that way) someone else gave the interpretation.
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