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Old 06-27-2011, 10:31 AM
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Re: Jack Van Impe abandons TBN due to CHRISLAM

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I, too, think bashing is wrong. But if Impe is correct in saying TBN is airing encouragement of an amalgamation of Islam with Christianity, them I agree with Impe on THAT point.
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Old 11-14-2011, 02:41 PM
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Re: Jack Van Impe abandons TBN due to CHRISLAM

an update on this by Rick Warren

http://www.charismanews.com/us/32322...ports-chrislam
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Old 11-15-2011, 05:23 PM
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That is sicking, Brother..but a good reminder of what happens in Christianity ..like waking us up to the fact the Satan uses many well meaning people.

I hate Islam!!!! I want to destroy it..but without harming any Muslims...

to hate them means you've lost hope in the possibility of reaching them..Those who come out to attack Rich Warren and those who are reaching out to Muslims; do not believe that Muslims can be reached.. Their imaginations are marred with the image of defeat...

I will not comment on those who made these accusations. because God is at my right hand.. seriously.
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Old 11-14-2011, 02:43 PM
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I, too, think bashing is wrong. But if Impe is correct in saying TBN is airing encouragement of an amalgamation of Islam with Christianity, them I agree with Impe on THAT point.
Amen.
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:43 PM
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Re: Jack Van Impe abandons TBN due to CHRISLAM

I have heard about this Chrislam. It reminds me very strongly of the C.S. Lewis story The Last Battle. Toward the middle of the story, there is a mixture of two 'deities', Aslan (a type of Christ) and Tash (a type of Satan). This abomination was termed "Tashlan". This attempt to blend these opposing systems will be nothing less than the destruction of those who have compromised from Christianity to "Chrislam".
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:58 PM
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Re: Jack Van Impe abandons TBN due to CHRISLAM

Now as Apostolic Ministers we must think how far can we go to meet the unbeliever.

Should we go into bars to find the lost souls?

can we find a middle ground between Oneness and trinitarians?

Is there a middle ground between Christianity and Islam?

Just exactly where do we draw the line?

We want to evangelize the Lost, but how far can we go without compromising the gospel?
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:50 AM
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Re: Jack Van Impe abandons TBN due to CHRISLAM

Rick Warren Addresses Rumors He Supports Chrislam

http://www.charismanews.com/us/32322...ports-chrislam

Sami M. Angawi, left, talks with Evangelical pastor Rick Warren, right, at the Islamic Society of North America’s 46th annual convention in Washington, July 4, 2009. Evangelical megachurch pastor Rick Warren says America's largest Islamic organization showed courage when it invited him to speak at its annual convention. (AP Images/Luis M. Alvarez) (Picture was in article.)
Rick Warren is calling his affiliation with Chrislam (a bridge-building attempt to allow the two religions to coexist) “nonsense” and “a lie that won’t die.”

Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church, directly responded to one of his Twitter followers on the microblogging site on Saturday. The question was: “Old guy on TV claims u support chrislam. True?”

That “old guy” was likely Jack Van Impe, the popular end-times television host who walked way from TBN in the wake of a dispute over naming well-known ministers he claims are mixing Muslim and Christian beliefs.

Warren had previously commented about the rumors in response to a blog post where people were attacking him for his reported support of Chrislam. In the comment, he pointed to Proverbs 14:15, which states “Only a fool believes all that he hears.”

Here is the rest of Warren’s response:

The so-called "Chrislam" rumor is 100 percent false. If the guy who started this libelous myth, or anyone else who passed it on, had obeyed our Lord's command (Matt. 18:18-20) to come directly to me, and then asked what I actually believed—they would have been embarrassed to learn that I believe the exact opposite. As a fourth generation Christian pastor, my life and ministry is built on the truth that Jesus is the only way, and our inerrant Bible is our only true authority.

As an evangelist, I spend much of my time speaking to non-Christian groups. You cannot win your enemies to Christ; only your friends, so we must build bridges of friendship and love to those who believe differently so Jesus can walk across that bridge into their hearts. Besides, it is not a sin, but rather COMMANDED by Jesus that we love our enemies. In the past 10 years, Saddleback Church has baptized over 22,000 new adult believers—simply because we express love to those who don’t know Christ yet.

It is nonsense to believe that you must compromise your beliefs, or water down your convictions in order to love someone, or even just treat them with dignity.

Jesus was called "the friend of sinners" by the legalistic Pharisees because he hung out with (and clearly loved) unbelievers. I HOPE YOU will 1) Always believe that EVERYONE needs Jesus as their Lord & Savior. 2) Have the courage to associate with nonbelievers in order to love them and bring them to the Savior. 3) Consider being called "a friend of sinners" a Christ-like compliment. 4) Refuse to pass on rumors until you've checked for the truth with the person accused. The false statements above should be removed.

Will this put an end to the controversy? Should it? Or is it, as Warren says, the "lie that won't die"?
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Everyone without exception including TBN-Van Impe is lost without this Acts 2:38 message. Just saying............................
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Re: Jack Van Impe abandons TBN due to CHRISLAM

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Everyone without exception including TBN-Van Impe is lost without this Acts 2:38 message. Just saying............................
Ephesians 2:8 teaches:
For it is by grace that we are saved-- saved by grace through faith, and it is not of our doing, it's the gift of God.
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Ephesians 2:8 teaches:
For it is by grace that we are saved-- saved by grace through faith, and it is not of our doing, it's the gift of God.
I am glad I believe-preach-accepted-obeyed that. It is a wonderful passage.
Who doesn't believe that is the question? However like Paul Harvey now for the rest of the story "Repent and be baptized everyone one of you in the Name of Jesus Christ FOR the remission of sins and ye shall recieve the GIFT of the Holy Ghost."
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