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Old 07-17-2011, 03:09 PM
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Re: a keyboard doth not an expert make...

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I'm guessing some posters spend more time on the internet than they do with their family.
Im guessing you are on crack...see how that works? I'm guessing you....seems to me the bigger issue is with the accuser than the accused
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Old 07-17-2011, 03:10 PM
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Re: a keyboard doth not an expert make...

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I must have struck a nerve. Four admins have posted on this thread.
Yeah, you struck my "Beware of Pharisaical false accusers" nerve
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  2. The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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Old 07-17-2011, 04:14 PM
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Re: a keyboard doth not an expert make...

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I must have struck a nerve. Four admins have posted on this thread.
Anytime I see someone paint with as broad a brush as you did in your premise a nerve absolutely has been struck. As I said earlier no doubt what you stated applies to a very small minority.
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"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Old 07-17-2011, 04:16 PM
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Re: a keyboard doth not an expert make...

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Yeah, you struck my "Beware of Pharisaical false accusers" nerve
LOL!!!

I think it is pretty clear this person is going to take any criticism of his broad brush as a validation of it. With that kind of logic you really can't get anywhere with them. They would rather defend the indefensibile than admit they should have qualified their statement.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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Old 07-17-2011, 05:21 PM
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Re: a keyboard doth not an expert make...

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LOL!!!

I think it is pretty clear this person is going to take any criticism of his broad brush as a validation of it. With that kind of logic you really can't get anywhere with them. They would rather defend the indefensibile than admit they should have qualified their statement.
Ya, he actually has a few valid and half valid points but there has been no shortage of people showing up over the years who come on like attack dogs and then claim martyrdom when challenged or pushed back in any ways.

I believe it is part of Apastolica culture. I can think of many many times where people in our church (during the 80's) disrupted other church services and religious groups and then testified Sunday night how they stood up to the devil because these people dared to "attack me!".

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Old 07-17-2011, 05:59 PM
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Re: a keyboard doth not an expert make...

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Please refer to point #3. Legalistic? Self-righteous?

DG, it seems as though your record player keeps skipping back to the same old line of the same old song. After a few years, you'd think you'd realize many things in life have nothing to do with legalism.
Chateau,

This is not a church but when a "believer" says things to other Christians admonishing them with a broad brush and absolutely no humility or feeling it really makes me think that I am dealing with a legalist. The legalist will take things that are not a sin and make them a sin for everyone and loves to judge based on their highly developed personal insight. I don't know anything about you and I haven't read any other post but I am not the only person who has had a problem with your post. If you are wise you will listen to your fellow christians and pray that the Holy Spirit will deal with you. God may be using them to work in your life.

I am not sure how know about me saying the same thing over and over. You only have 76 post. Or maybe you are one of those folks who changes their name all the time. I have kept my avatar the same forever. I started out apostolic on this forum years ago and have since left the movement. I still come back and discuss things


I do not frequent this forum in order to find people who believe the same. In fact, I go to one of the largest churches in the united states with a highly influential pastor where the unadulterated gospel is preached consistently. The beliefs of my church are almost the exact opposite of everything that is apostolic. In fact, most people at my church have never even heard of the apostolic movement and do not even believe that churches like this even exist. I still run across legalistic people sometimes even in my church though most are people who grew up in church and it is just their tradition.


My goal is to surround myself with people who in grace and love can offer help and live in gospel community.

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Old 07-17-2011, 10:38 PM
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Re: a keyboard doth not an expert make...

I really don't see what is so offensive about the opening post.

Some people are way too touchy.
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Old 07-18-2011, 01:56 AM
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Re: a keyboard doth not an expert make...

I didn't find it offensive. Delusional? Hypocritical? Lacking substance? I found it a lot of things, including a little amusing but not offensive
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  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:03 AM
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Re: a keyboard doth not an expert make...

I find it absolutely non-offensive, to be honest...because I don't fall under any of the items he/she listed. So, for those who are in the same boat as I, let's move on to other posts here...

And, BTW, I would hope Admins' presence would be known, which they do quite well. So, for as many of them to chime on on this thread as they have, all the more power...
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:50 AM
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Re: a keyboard doth not an expert make...

The IP has substance and validity, my suggestion to those that are irritated by it: If the shoe fits, wear it, if not throw it away or give it to Goodwill!!!
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