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Old 10-10-2011, 06:38 AM
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Re: Charleston Pentecostal Church

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Folks, the assumption that Trinitarians do NOT believe Jesus is Jehovah is a fundamental problem among Oneness Pentecostals.

They deserve at least a cursory reading of their doctrine if we have the gall to condemn or judge them on the same.

Shame on us.
It is hard to know what trinitarians believe about the Godhead, because they differ so much. The pastor at the trinitarian church i attended most of my life emphatically insisted that "Jesus is not GOD!". However, most trinitarians believe that Jesus is at least a part of God. Most would agree that Jesus is GOd manifested in the flesh, yet place little emphasis on teaching that. This man also emphatically preached (concerning baptism) "I would rather listen to Jesus any day than Peter!".
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:27 PM
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It is hard to know what trinitarians believe about the Godhead, because they differ so much. The pastor at the trinitarian church i attended most of my life emphatically insisted that "Jesus is not GOD!". However, most trinitarians believe that Jesus is at least a part of God. Most would agree that Jesus is GOd manifested in the flesh, yet place little emphasis on teaching that. This man also emphatically preached (concerning baptism) "I would rather listen to Jesus any day than Peter!".
This Trinitarian pastor you refer to... do they have a website? I would love to explore your claim more fully. Not because I think you lie, but because it's easy to overlook details sometimes. If possible please provide a link or at least a quote for the skeptics.
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They believe the Father is Jehovah. They believe the Son is Jehovah. They believe the Spirit is Jehovah. They believe there are three distinct persons. I have studied with them many, many times.
You and I believe this too right?

Could we even agree there are some distinctions between the three?

Where we primarily part ways with Trinitarians, I think, is in the usage of the term "persons" rather than modes of being.
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Re: Charleston Pentecostal Church

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You and I believe this too right?

Could we even agree there are some distinctions between the three?

Where we primarily part ways with Trinitarians, I think, is in the usage of the term "persons" rather than modes of being.
I agree with you here, Hoovie. I think there was a reason that God did what He is in the modes or persons He did them in. I am not surprised that some people wanna split hairs over it because somethings/people never change.
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